Karenk, I’ll make the same suggestion to you that I did to someone else: stop presenting Turner’s verkakte, excuse-filled story as fact. The jury rejected it. The jury convicted Turner of three counts of felony sexual assault. It matters not whether he used his penis or his fingers. It’s the same thing legally. Turner and his family and various rape apologists are the only ones trying to minimize what happened. Which are you?
Also: are you a parent? You certainly don’t sound like one. You sound like a college student with a talent for fiction.
@reddoor what I wrote is literally all I know–it was second-hand information. It was shocking to me that drugging drinks for nefarious purposes may be a much more common occurrence than I realized!! I always thought it was very rare and only perpetrated by psychopathic personality-disordered types.
Begging for leniency is one thing if they gave even an inkling of understanding that their son did something horrific, and that a young woman’s life is shattered as a result.
Begging for leniency because their son took advantage of a drunk girl to grab “20 minutes of action” indicates a complete lack of understanding. It also vividly demonstrates where this kid got his ideas about the purpose and uses of women.
KarenK - in the Michigan case you cited the accused got a court restraining order against MSU…I’m presuming it was during this time period of the restraining order that he transferred to UoM. Just clarifying how he probably was able to transfer.
It looks like the police reports were released recently and yes @DonnaL it looks like he was not away from the victim when the bystanders yelled to him. My apologies, I was probably recalling some early report or part of the testimony from Turner.
It’s confusing because the police report mentions someone seeing a man standing over her with a cell phone light shining on her. I am hoping that that was the guy who called 911 (for some reason, there’s no account by him in the police report). The perp and the Swedes were off to the side at that time.
Now that a photograph has surfaced, that may be of the victim and taken by Turner, it adds confusion. If so, it absolutely had to be taken before the Swedes arrived on the scene because he was lying on top of her at that point and then he ran away. No chance to stand over her and take a photo by then.
P.S. I find it hard to believe anyone be afraid two guys speaking Swedish, lol.
I wouldn’t be afraid of two Swedes speaking Swedish because I grew up with that language in the house and would probably understand them. But according to the police all they said was “Hey.” which is pretty universal. I learned verkakte during my time in Germany…
Momofthreeboys, I’m not sure why you would rely only on the police report rather than the trial testimony (at least as quoted in one of the articles I cited). According to that article, they testified that they said more than “hey.”
I hadn’t read the police report snippets until this afternoon which is why I was uninformed about the sequence of where Turner was when the Swedes yelled “hey.” I haven’t seen a link with the whole police report. I’m still confused about the timing of who was standing by the victim, where the Swedes were, when Turner moved away from the victim, etc. it’s all rather moot since he was found guilty, but it is interesting anecdotally the difference between the police report, or what people are reporting was in the police report from early media coverage and if the info surfacing today is true more damning than early reports but I don’t get who saw him standing over her taking a picture. The Swedes? Doesn’t really change my mind about the sentence which did not surprise me, more about what happened, and gave me something to remind myself to talk to the boys about…
Reddoor, yes, I’ve seen that movie. I guess I should be flattered, but I’m no Meryl Streep, let alone a Miranda Priestley! You have the city right, but the wrong ethnicity. Among other things, like: she’s a lot taller.
This has been traumatizing for the woman and will effect her entire life. Campus rapes are happening everyday, and most don’t get caught or reported or taken seriously by the authorities. Do we have a generation of traumatized young women coming along?
“Begging for leniency because their son took advantage of a drunk girl to grab “20 minutes of action” indicates a complete lack of understanding.”
For about the 10th time, he wasn’t using the word action in the sexual-action sense of the word. He was ungracefully trying to say “this one incident shouldn’t define his life.”
and would probably understand them. But according to the police all they said was “Hey.” which is pretty universal. I learned verkakte during my time in Germany…