<p>Guidance counselors can be irresponsible with some of their predictions. I know one kid who was told by his GC that he was a shoe-in for NYU ED. When he was rejected in late December, he hadn’t even considered other colleges because his GC implied that he wouldn’t have to.</p>
<p>What does “BWRK” mean?</p>
<p>Weaver:
Just do an internet search for ‘BWRK meaning’ .</p>
<p>Basic Well Rounded Kid</p>
<p>Going just a little further, I think it’s commonly used to mean “Bright Well-Rounded Kid”.</p>
<p>Sorry about that- Brain freeze! Yes, Bright is the word.</p>
<p>I think several people on this thread have mentioned how colleges apparently pseudo-court students before the apps deadline just to raise their app numbers, etc.</p>
<p>This seems to me like a dumb question, but I have been curious about it for some time now. Does anyone have any clue how admissions officers feel when a kid declines matriculation at their school? I mean, after the acceptances are in, some schools really come after students hard, almost as if its a personal matter. They call, send stuff, and really lay it on. Is it just a matter of numbers or does the school in some odd way feel similarly to how students feel when they are rejected?</p>
<p>I know that for law school, my niece was offered increasing merit aid after she turned down a school that had accepted her with some merit $$$. She was very flattered but still chose to attend her home state law school instead. I do think the other law school was very sincere in wanting her to attend.</p>
<p>For my son, I know that after we e-mailed the schools he was accepted about where he would be matriculating in the fall, only one engaged in an exchange with us thereafter about why he would not be attending their school in the fall.</p>
<p>From reading “Gatekeepers” and similar books, it does seem that SOMETIMES adcoms do take considerable interest in some candidates & are quite disappointed when those students choose to matriculate at other schools. Since schools have so many students to consider, I don’t imagine it is quite the same as the way the students are torn about their acceptances & rejections.</p>
<p>I have talked with an admission person at a top 20 university. Each of the admission counselors have a region of the country where they recruit and then fight for their applicants in the admissions process. She says the counselors do get attached to some of the applicants in their region with whom they’ve had a lot of contact. And I understood that it’s somewhat of a competition among the counselors - whose applicants get admitted and then matriculate.</p>
<p>Music–
Thank you for sharing. I strongly agree with your post. It was kind of you to warn future students.</p>
<p>Frankly, I was shocked when I first heard our guidance counselor talk about Holy Grail schools where luck played a factor in acceptance or rejection.</p>
<p>As I’ve read more about what is happening in college admissions, I’ve come to believe that there is not enough is being written about the “enrollment management” practices that colleges are following. Targeting the early recruitment of students by the socio economic status of their neighborhood and their test scores, encouraging marginal students to apply to bump up their rejections percentage and thus their perceived selectivity, rejecting qualified students who might not enroll in order to manage their reported statistics re the percent of admitted students who enroll, and similar practices need to be better understood by students and their parents. </p>
<p>The admissions process has become one in which 17 and 18 year olds who believe they are participating in what is ostensibly a quasi merit driven competition for admission to college, are actually pawns in a process geared towards ensuring a college or university’s strategic interests.</p>
<p>Given that for students the admission process is in many ways so personal, and that acceptance or rejection to college is so easily felt to be a validation or repudiation of who you are, I believe that students deserve to have a better understanding of the impersonal, business oriented practices that have become part of the college side of the admissions process.</p>
<p>Good luck to you at U of T.<br>
Although it might not seem that way to you now, having many years ago turned down U of Chicago to attend Carleton U, I think that in the long run you will find that you were lucky to end up at Toronto.</p>
<p>Excuse me, car137, for not looking over EVERY single word in my post to check for grammatical errors! I guess now we judge intelligence based on internet chat! Go look at the Ivy schools discussion boards. I’m sure you’ll find many spelling and grammar mistakes. People just want to post a message, NOT write an essay on these boards.
YOU DON’T KNOW ME. You don’t know my history as a student, and to think that within a couple of posts and by judging my screenname, you know everything there is to know about me is COMPLETELY pompous and rude.
I’m more than a student with good grades and a talent on an instrument. If you knew me for years, you would probably know that. But you don’t, so stop acting like you have such incredibly astute observation skills that you can know everything there is to know about a person within a few posts.</p>
<p>quiltguru: I never said I auditioned for Yale. If you look at my previous posts, I said I auditioned for many of the schools I applied to. These schools did hold auditions. Many of the schools I applied to didn’t hold auditons, one of them being Yale.</p>
<p>It’s amazing how people jump to conclusions on these boards.</p>