Yes can definitely see the other side.
I am serious. They need more than just taxpayer money and in state tuition to make it work. They rely on some OOS tuition for that extra revenue. I read an article about it a few months ago. Iāll try and find it.
Yes. Approximately 93% of our incoming FL residents receive bright futures at UF (could not locate data for FSU). Agree with you that these two Universities rely on OOS students to pay full tuition (or close to it) to offset the fact that the in-state tuition is so low.
This is usā¦ Live in northern Nevada- State Schools arenāt great. My daughter doesnāt want to go to CA or OR, and doesnāt want the free ride at University of Nevada, haha. Sheās in at VT (her mom and I are graduate School alums there), Clemson, UGA. We own a home in NC, so sheās currently favoring Clemson and VT- unlikely any merit aid there. FSU and UF are the best deals for OOS students, but Iām not sure sheās very interested, which is unfortunate for us, cost wise. I doubt sheās getting in at UF, but think she has a good/decent shot at FSU.
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I live in Washington, and we have the UW, but it is so close to my home and I donāt want that. I wish we had another really good flasgship on the east side of the state or something so I could still be a bit away from home, but we donāt so I have to go OOS. There are really no good answers to the in state vs OOS admission advantage because it is unfair both ways.
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I hope you at least applied to UW, which is an excellent school with in-state tuition.
I did apply, but I donāt really want to go.
Florida publics are insanely good at their price points for OOS students not looking for any merit.
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Ben Sasse at UF has talked openly about not allowing Bright Futures scholarships anymore, specifically for cash flow reasons. I am sure he likes OOS students paying top dollar at UF. I have to think it is the same at FSU.
I just hope the Bright Futures rug doesnāt get yanked out from under families in the middle of a studentās 4-years at FSU and/or UF.
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As reference, OOS tuition with no merit for most Florida publics is in the $17-$21k range. In-state Rutgers is at $16.5k and NJIT is at $18.5k for comparison. The next cheapest OOS option for us is Purdue at $30k, that too with the 12-year tuition freeze. Most other OOS schools are in the $35-$40k range for tuition.
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Bright future scholarships are funded by the Florida lottery when the lottery was approved in the late 80s this was the only way it could get approved by the voters if they attach the stipulation that the proceeds would help fund education.
In state for UIUC is $17-22
That is not accurate. FL public Universities are not waiving tuition for FL bright futures students. FBF is funding their scholarships via funds received from the state and lottery system. To say 15% of students paying OOS tuition is bridging a significant gap just isnāt accurate nor good math. Our state schools are funded by State Appropriations, and the Education Enhancement Trust Fund among other sources
I donāt know if this is true, but the suggestion I have seen/heard made is that the amount of Bright Futures subsidy from the state is insufficient to cover costs (at least at UF) at this point. Thus the university loses money on each student and needs additional funds ā which they have received recently by additional state allocations, as I understand it. But I can understand why a university would be wary of relying on the state legislature to cover its operating costs.
It is accurate and thatās why they want to raise it even more, especially at UF.
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thought I saw OSU was your dream schoolā¦!!!
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It was, until I visited.
The tuition in Florida state schools is determined by the State University System for all 12 schools and isnāt something an individual school can increase. Sasse just mentioned that as an idea to increase revenue, but he also recognizes that isnāt possible without a system wide increase. Tuition hasnāt been increased in 8-10 years throughout the SUS, so it may be due for an increase anyway. Since the lottery pays for Bright Futures it wonāt be an issue if it gets passed in the legislature.
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I never said the universities were waiving the tuition for our residents. Iām well aware how the universities receive the tuition dollars for bright futures. However, the universities do benefit from receiving higher tuition dollars from OOS. I also agree with the fact that the public universities should favor in-state vs OOS students (hence Iām glad UF enrollment is 80%+ in-state for incoming students).
Nah, but keep thinking you understand our state systems. The other poster was in fact accurate as to how our state U systems work and how they are funded.
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