Full spectrum light boxes?

<p>Winter has arrived early in our part of the country. The past week has been gloomy, gloomy, gloomy. DD came home from practice today and said, “I really don’t want to tan, but it might be worth it just to get some light.” I’ve dealt with the cold of the midwest forever, but the lack of sunshine has always been slightly depressing for me. Not to the degree of Seasonal Affective Disorder, but it seems to affect me more as I’ve gotten older. </p>

<p>Anyone have any experiences with a light box? I’ve also noticed full spectrum light bulbs at a local hardware store. I wonder if they would do the same thing? </p>

<p>We just need some sunlight and the trip to a sunny state is out this winter.</p>

<p>Hi! I live in Alaska and I do use a SAD light along with melatonin. I find it helps my mood. Also, when it’s cold and dark, I am ready to hibernate - so finding activities and getting outside also help - it’s work for me cause I hate the cold. The reflective light of snow is important.
The SAD light I use is broad spectrum light at 10,000 lux. I sit in front of the thing when I am reading the morning paper for about half an hour. My understanding is that the SAD light is broad spectrum - pure white light that does not emit UV rays. The full spectrum light is blue or purple and DOES emit UV rays.</p>

<p>Full spectrum light</p>

<p>I have used the light in the past…now, I try to walk outside in the early morning sunlight (when there is any…) I find that the light only works if you use it continuously and for at least 30 min/day…
and yes, I have found that as I get older, the SAD (self-diagnosed) does get worse…Now, I would take a brutally cold sunny day over a slightly warmer (relatively) nasty, gloomy one hands down…</p>

<p>I purchased one from Costco.com to help my kids because they had trouble waking inthe morning. It sort of helped but after a while, they didn’t want to use it any more so I gave it to my niece in Idaho where it’s dark & cold much longer & am told she appreciates it.</p>

<p>I bought him a full spectrum lamp from an office supply store for his dorm & haven’t heard back–not sure whether he realizes it was a full spectrum lamp but the price wasn’t much more & it seemed a less harsh lighting than the others in the store.</p>

<p>Thanks rrah – I was going to post the same question! Every year I like the cold less it seems. I’ll check out Costco–would like the non-tanning rays. Anything to avoid becoming winter-grumpy, lol.</p>

<p>There has been a lot in the press lately about vitamin D deficiency. I have been wondering if that is what the SAD syndrome really is. Do these lights act in the same way as sunlight - triggering the production of vitamin D? Would then taking a vitamin D supplement “cure” the SAD? </p>

<p>My friend had vitamin D deficiency and to me the symptoms overlapped with the SAD type ones. She took vitamin D for a couple of months and was then fine. Should she buy one of these lights? She is outdoors a lot even in the cold but our sunlight is too weak up here.</p>

<p>the ‘good’ news is that in less than five weeks, the days will start getting longer again!</p>

<p>We have a Sadelite from Northern Light Technologies. It’s at least 10 years old. I just got it out the other day. We sit under it while eating breakfast and it really helps keep one motivated, etc. on those gloomy days. Also if you have close work, the extra light really helps! The light increases serotonin levels. If you use it at night you won’t get to sleep.</p>

<p>I also purchased a little bottle of Bio-D-Mulsion Forte so everyone in the family can get a quick dose of Vitamin D every day during winter. You can take vitamin D pills, but I really like this emulsion. It tastes good and is very quick to take.</p>

<p>As for the weather - we’re going down…</p>

<p>I have my doubts about the value of “full spectrum” lights. I did a quick search and found little in the way of any scientific studies. I did of course find lots of ads for expensive lighting systems and light globes. I think really bright lighting can help lift the spirits on a gloomy day. I like the halogen pedestal lamps that were popular a few years ago. They are fire hazards and you need to watch the location and not leave them unattended. Also consider the effect of room colors. Blues can feel cold and depressing while yellows and reds are more cheerful and energizing.</p>

<p>anyone else have any other ideas???</p>

<p>Apollo health has several good options. The website is lighttherapy.com</p>

<p>Numerous studies have validated the effectiveness of broad spectrum light – the blue waves specifically.</p>

<p>By the way, we bought the “bright light” from Costco.com. I have never seen it inthe store. I think it was around $150 or so–maybe $250. It seemed less expensive than other places I found on the web & they said I could take it back to any Costco for a full refund (including shipping) if we weren’t satisfied.</p>

<p>From Medscape</p>

<p>The New “Blue Light” Intervention for Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) </p>

<p>Question
What is the evidence for light therapy, specifically the newer “blue light” 470 nm therapy, for seasonal affective disorder (SAD)?</p>

<p>Laura Davies, MD</p>

<p>Response from Michael E. Thase, MD
Professor of Psychiatry, University of Pittsburgh Medical Center; Chief, Division of Adult Academic Psychiatry, Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania</p>

<p>Between 15% and 25% of people with recurrent depressive disorder manifest a seasonal pattern whereby the risk of depression increases during the fall and winter and decreases during spring and summer. Rates of such a “winter depression” pattern tend to be higher in regions with less sun exposure and lower in sunny climates with longer days. For the past several decades, researchers have been studying whether artificially extending the photoperiod with bright light could exert therapeutic effect and, if so, whether this effect would be specific to patients with “winter depression.” It is fairly clear now that bright light has significant therapeutic effects[1] and, for patients with “winter depression,” the magnitude of these effects is comparable to that of standard antidepressants such as fluoxetine.[2] Bright light exposure also has some antidepressant effects for patients with nonseasonal depression, although the magnitude of the effects is smaller,[1] less predictable,[3] and may be less sustained.[4] Light therapy is generally well tolerated; insomnia is probably the most common side effect. Although uncommon, treatment-emergent hypomania and mania have been reported.</p>

<p>Standardized and relatively attractive desktop-sized light units are readily available through Internet vendors; prices range from $200 to $400. These units typically deliver 10,000 lux of brightness with full-spectrum light. A typical course of therapy involves 30 to 60 minutes of light exposure each morning throughout the period of risk (ie, September through April). The major drawback of light therapy is the time involved: many patients lack the organization and motivation to persist with such a long course of therapy.</p>

<p>As a result, investigators are studying alternatives that may affect the circadian systems that mediate response to bright full-spectrum light. Two promising options are dawn simulation and negative air ionization at high flow rate, which can be administered during the final hours of sleep.[5] Narrow-spectrum blue light (468-nm light at 607 microW/cm2, with a 27-nm half-peak bandwidth), administered via a light-emitting diode (LED), has been shown to suppress melatonin as does full-spectrum bright light. In one recent trial, narrow-spectrum blue light was shown to exert significant antidepressant effects.[6] However, as this form of light therapy also appears to require 45 minutes of daily morning administration, it is not clear whether it will offer any advantages over conventional light therapy.</p>

<p>my sons have full spectrum lights on the desk lamps…sooooo much better for them when they study. Very good graduation gift.</p>

<p>“sooooo much better for them…” Could you provide the reference to support this claim?</p>

<p>My plants like the full spectrum bulbs and I can read better with those bulbs.
Midwestern winters are still blahhhhh</p>

<p>I have no scientific proof of this, but I find that I “feel better” when I replace bulbs with brighter bulbs, even regular bulbs. I also had to convince my energy-stingy wife to leave more lights on for me. Again, no proof, but my experience is that more and brighter light is “better” for me.</p>

<p>I could find several scientific papers that demonstrate that bright lights help SAD. Except for anecdotal claims and a single uncontrolled study, I could not find any documentation for value of full spectrum lighting.</p>

<p>Don’t confuse full spectrum light with bright light.</p>

<p>What I have is a bright, full spectrum light.</p>

<p>If, as edad suggests, the main value comes from the brightness of the light, the full spectrum may not be important.</p>