Game of Thrones, season 7

I have a secret hope that Tyrion will spend some time with the now grown up Sansa and she’ll discover he’s actually worth keeping.

I don’t have a good sense from either the books or the TV show how icky the rest of Westeros thinks incest would be - especially if it’s accidental, but I can easily see one or both of them dying before the shows end.

One quick thought - after reviewing the episode 5 scene from Old Town and rewatching the season finale, I think the interwebs are unfairly accusing Sam of stealing Gilly’s “discovery” about the legitimacy of Jon Snow’s birth. He tells Bran “I transcribed the Grand Maester’s diary”. It’s become obvious (at least to me) that he did finish transcribing that diary back in Old Town and then turned it over to Gilly so she could practice her reading and maybe learn some history. So when she asked about the annulment and read the passage out loud, Sam had already seen it before giving her the diary. And we know that Sam remembers most everything he’s ever read!

That also explains why (1) he wasn’t really paying much attention to what she was saying and (2) he gave the diary to baby Sam since it was no longer a problem if it was damaged.

Me, too.

I stopped watching before it was learned that Jon was a Targaryen. Could someone fill me in on this, please?

I only watched season one, but have kept up by reading the on-line summaries and regular updates from a couple of my nieces, because from the end of season one, I have been convinced Dany’s baby is not dead, and will show up:

As swift as the wind he rides, and behind him his khalasar covers the earth, men without number, with arakhs shining in their hands like blades of razor grass. Fierce as a storm this prince will be. His enemies will tremble before him, and their wives will weep tears of blood and rend their flesh in grief. The bells in his hair will sing his coming, and the milk men in the stone tents will fear his name. The prince is riding, and he shall be the stallion who mounts the world.

That is pretty much my entire interest in the show. I am waiting around for this supposedly dead baby to show up and save the day. My nieces don’t believe my theory.

I am convinced my ending is a good one, even if not the correct one. :slight_smile:

@alh, I love it.

Jon is supposedly Ned Stark’s ■■■■■■■ son but fans have never believed it (although the people of Westeros do) because Ned simply wasn’t the sort to cheat on his wife.

Actually, Jon is the son of Ned’s sister Lyanna, who died in childbirth but asked Ned, before she died, to protect her baby. Lyanna had supposedly been “kidnapped and raped” by Rhaegar Targaryen, Daenerys’s oldest brother. (This event started a war, which ended up with lots of people killed including Rhaegar, who was the heir to the Iron Throne. Robert Baratheon ended up as king as a result of this war.

By the end of season 6, it was established that Jon was the child of Lyanna (and presumably Rhaegar, although this was not stated outright), which is interesting but not particularly important if he’s Lyanna’s illegitimate child instead of Ned’s. But during season 7, it was revealed that Rhaegar had his marriage to his previous wife annulled and married Lyanna. Thus, Jon is the legitimate child of Rhaegar and Lyanna. His real name is Aegon Targaryen (Lyanna told Ned this before she died), and his claim to the Iron Throne is better than Daenerys’s.

He’s also Daenerys’s nephew, which makes their sexual relationship more than a little weird.

I thought the sex scene was meant to be weird. No romance, no lead up that you’d expect if they were going to be having a love affair…it was more like “ok they’re doing this and they don’t know they’re related” type of thing.

Then again, sex in GOT is never really loving or hot, like it is in, say, Outlander. (which is returning for season 3 on September 10 BTW). More a tool to advance the plot or show how awful some character is.

Oh wow, thank you for the information, Marian. I did not see that coming.

My daughter started the series late so I’ve been watching a bit of Season 1 over her shoulder. It’s amazing how much of what’s happening in Season 7 is foreshadowed in the first season. I’d either forgotten about it or I just didn’t yet have enough information for it to seem significant to me. That’s the advantage of a series with a full story arc written from the beginning-there are no loose ends and the writers can give us sneaky little clues as to what’s ahead. Rewatching Season 1 might be a fun way to pass your TV time until the show returns.

I too have been driven nuts by a few of the inconsistencies this season- the chains that magically appear so the White Walkers can chain the dragon, the lack of hats as a group of northerner go out onto the freezing tundra, the multiple day slog into the wilds which Gendry seems to be able to cover in reverse in a couple of hours.

And as much as I hate to say it, the fact that the army of White Walkers was able to breach the wall is really Jon Snow’s fault. If he hadn’t gone north to retrieve a WW Danaerys wouldn’t have had to send her dragons, one wouldn’t have been killed and it wouldn’t have returned to destroy the wall. And all to convince Cersei to help. That turned out well.

Still looking forward to the final season. :smiley:

Fun fact-In an aerial shot of the Night King’s army they form a wolf-the Stark sigil. Does it indicate a connection between Bran and the Night King? Does it foreshadow Jon’s rise? Does it indicate the White Walkers’ intended target? I guess we’ll have to wait for Season 8 to find out!

The costuming (everyone in all black) has turned a little lackluster. I hope costuming will take heed.

The retrieval of the dragon with chains didn’t bother me at all.
I just saw the writers envisioning the scene and then someone pipes up with “where did they get the chains?” “Do the bad guys go under water?”
and is answered with “SHUT UP! This is going to be SO COOL!”

They cut to Jon and Danny without any fun before stuff because the writers are all men… :slight_smile:

Makes sense. “The Wedding” episode of Outlander was both written and directed by women…and it shows. Lots of articles comparing it (favorably) to GOT sex scenes that year too.

Where did they get the chains? Hardhome, I would guess.

Fun stuff was limited to Jon lying in bed saying My Queen as she moved her thumb over the top of his hand. (I told you I hoped he’d “bend the knee” in a bedroom, :smiley: )

I didn’t mind the jump into bed. We’d already had enough of men gazing longingly at Dany in past seasons.

Well, I still wonder why it took so long to get out of the cave…

The wait for season 8 is long (and full of terrors?). But, this is worth a watch: Mashup of America’s ‘A Horse With No Name’ and Arya Stark’s ‘A Girl has No Name’ story in Game of Thrones seasons 5 and 6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=203&v=cKTFvBoEFUk