<p>The New York Post is not exactly the New England Journal of medicine. The evidence here is purely anecdotal. Don’t fall for it. There always is someone lurking around the corner to get on the “vaccines are worse than the disease” bandwagon. YUK.</p>
<p>By the age of 25 something like 99% of all people have had sex. Most people wait until after age 25 but no one is having sex before marriage. haha - what a joke. Oh yeah and even though many (most) of us who will admit it had sex as a teenager - our teenage son’s and daughter’s are not having sex. LOL.
The same furor erutped when the Hep B vaccine came out and now they give it to babies. Better to be protected than not.</p>
<p>I know a woman whose daughter at age 19 already had a cone biopsy. Her cervix was such a mess the gyn told her she probably would never carry a pregnancy to term.</p>
<p>Parents - this vaccine protects your daughter’s fertility and your ability to have grandchildren.</p>
<p>My husband has been talking to a colleague who thinks young men should be getting Gardasil shots too. He’s apparently seeing a lot more oral cancers in young men due he thinks to oral sex and HPV.</p>
<p>I actually thought of the old SNL skit where the cops through a guy out the window after finding marijuana and call it “another drug related death.”</p>
<p>Don’t have the numbers for age 25 but I am sure both are higher. </p>
<p>Before parents of daughter’s convince themselves that their daughter is one of the 1 in 4 they should remember that her future partner is very likely to be one of the ones who is among the 4 out of 5 group.</p>
<p>I want to second Hunt’s comment about the myth of Gardasil encouraging sex. I am an anesthesiologist with a 20 year old daughter who is vaccinated. One day, I was anesthetizing a young woman who was having surgery for her HPV infection. The nurse, a deeply religious woman who has a 17 year old daughter, commented that she wasn’t going to get her daughter vaccinated because they didn’t believe in sex outside of marriage. Later in the day, when she and I were alone, I commented how her daughter wouldn’t be protected if she were sexually assaulted. She stopped in her tracks and said she would reconsider.
You can protect you daughter without compromising your beliefs.</p>
<p>LWMD, I agree. It’s the same faulty logic employed when people are against any sex ed in the schools because it will cause kids to have sex. It’s frightening.</p>
<p>Find a spouse where your odds are far better than those in the US. Swaggert was drawn from the same pool with bad odds. If it’s risky to trust anyone on this, then what do you do about the other STDs?</p>
<p>But on the other hand, a huge number of fertile young
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<p>I’ll have to admit that I’m one of those who immediately worried about this possibility. If some unforeseen serious health complication arises from Gardasil many years post-immunization, it will have extremely far reaching implications. </p>
<p>I just have serious suspicions about the underlying motivations (from both the pharmaceutical industry, and the government agencies, supposed tasked with protecting our health interests) that lays behind pushing these new, and largely untested vaccines. Witness how now the American Pediatrics Association is now calling for putting children as young as 8 yrs on cholesterol lowering drugs (Statins!) if they show high LDL cholesterol. How incredibly irresponsible it is to see these growing health crisis’ in our children, problems that are directly linked to America’s toxic dietary practices (fostered almost entirely by the money driven, tobacco Co. owning food industry), and conclude that we should respond by pumping toxic drugs into the bodies of our youngest citizens! </p>
<p>I can’t help but ask myself is: who is it really, that has the most to gain from this greater and greater pharmaceutical infusion into the average American’s everyday “health maintenance”?</p>
<p>“If it’s risky to trust anyone on this, then what do you do about the other STDs?”</p>
<p>Get tested, of course, and exchange test results with your intended spouse. As the Gipper said, trust but verify.</p>
<p>“I can’t help but ask myself is: who is it really, that has the most to gain from this greater and greater pharmaceutical infusion into the average American’s everyday “health maintenance”?”</p>
<p>Really, doctors and medical researchers are not part of a giant plot to harm Americans. While pharmaceutical companies can’t be fully trusted because of their profit motive, this is simply not true of the vast majority of doctors, including academics.</p>
<p>I feel the same way. I work for a firm that represents big pharma. I think it’s mostly populated by ethical people who are trying to do right by the greater public. Mostly. My doctor is not comfortable giving Gardasil to very young girls and I’m comfortable with her perspective.</p>
<p>Oh my. thalydomide is ONLY dangerous to the fetus of a pregnant woman who injests the drug while pregnant. Gardasil is not given to pregnant women.</p>
<p>This thread is indicative of the lack of education most people have about vaccines and how they work. Proof that science education in this country is lacking.</p>
<p>^^^ She didn’t mean that Gardasil would cause the same problems as Thalydomide or work in the same way, but used it as a comparison for not yet knowing what we don’t know. Unintended consequences and all that.</p>
<p>“Get tested, of course, and exchange test results with your intended spouse. As the Gipper said, trust but verify.”</p>
<p>Is there a male test for HPV? I thought I read somewhere (maybe on the other Gardisil thread) that there wasn’t such a test yet. What we need is instant blood tests in pharmacies.</p>
<p>“”“Oh my. thalydomide is ONLY dangerous to the fetus of a pregnant woman who injests the drug while pregnant. Gardasil is not given to pregnant women.”“”"</p>
<p>It looks like the NY Post story was picked up by CBS news and CNN and probably others. When I started googling this info yesterday, I read somewhere that gardasil caused spontaneous abortions in several pregnant women. Can’t remember where I read it, but I will try to find it again. Don’t ask my why pregnant women were taking gardasil. Maybe they had an outbreak and were trying to protect the baby? I don’t know.</p>
<p>P.S. - how do you properly post a quote when replying? I can’t figure it out.</p>
<p>““You do know that HPV is not just transmitted sexually, don’t you? You could shake someone’s hand then go to the toilet and become infected””"</p>
<p>I’m not too sure what you mean by this, but if your are referring to the HPV strain that causes the common wart on your hand, that strain cannot be passed to your private area.</p>