<p>This is where I read about gardasil causing spontaneous abortions:</p>
<p>[Death</a> toll linked to Gardasil vaccine rises](<a href=“Home - WND”>Death toll linked to Gardasil vaccine rises)</p>
<p>[HPV</a> Vaccine Gardasil Kills 3, Disrupts 18 Pregnancies | Wired Science from Wired.com](<a href=“http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/05/hpv_vaccine_gar.html]HPV”>http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/05/hpv_vaccine_gar.html)</p>
<p>““Is there a male test for HPV?””"</p>
<p>There is no male test for HPV. I remember I saw a show once where Ron Jeremy was bragging that he never caught a STD during his “career”. I laughed out loud and thought to myself “this guy must have given 4,000 women HPV and doesn’t know it!”</p>
<p>“I’m not too sure what you mean by this, but if your are referring to the HPV strain that causes the common wart on your hand, that strain cannot be passed to your private area.”</p>
<p>No, I’m talking about the HPV strains that infect the genital area. It is absolutely possible to catch HPV without sexual contact.</p>
<p>Lalucha, I have never heard of this.</p>
<p>Are you basing this information on scientific studies?</p>
<p>eeeww</p>
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<p>The world seems to be an even ickier place than I had thought</p>
<p>My niece told me this little-known fact. Don’t wait too long before getting it, if only because you have no idea what germs your husband will be carrying at the time of marriage.</p>
<p>my daughter didn’t begin getting the vaccine until she was 25. </p>
<p>The type that cause warts also are not the type that turn to cancer.</p>
<p>Another vaccine is being tested as well.
[Bad</a> News for Older Women Who Want the HPV Vaccine - On Women (usnews.com)](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-women/2008/06/25/bad-news-for-older-women-who-want-the-hpv-vaccine.html]Bad”>http://www.usnews.com/blogs/on-women/2008/06/25/bad-news-for-older-women-who-want-the-hpv-vaccine.html)</p>
<p>One scary thought is that many of the reactions are not even reported
(IMO). My daughter had a rather strong reaction which was quite frightening to her (and me) and the doctor’s office shrugged it off when we told them. I tried to go to the CDC to report it myself and found the form you complete online required information I did not have (such as lot number, the name of the person that actually administered the dose ,etc. ) . Then I noticed a link to vaccines which require the doctor to report adverse reactions and the HPV vaccine was not even listed. If the doctors are not required to report this stuff ( and are busy enough they probably will not do it voluntarily), and the patients find it difficult to report, how many adverse reactions just slip by unreported???</p>
<p>PA Mom - what was the reaction? My D is due to get her 2nd shot of 3 any time now.</p>
<p>From the National Institutes of Health website:
[Human</a> Papillomavirus (HPV) and Cancer: Q & A - National Cancer Institute](<a href=“http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/risk/HPV]Human”>http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/risk/HPV)</p>
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<p>Almost a third of cancer causing HVPs are not covered by this vaccine, so vigilant screening needs to be remained. And since cervical cancers generally only manifest many years post-infection, it may be a number of years before there will be any empirical evidence to assess the preventive effects of Gardisil.</p>
<p>How about exclusive sex with only one partner , for life .</p>
<p>Yesterday CNN reported on the number of adverse reaction reports -
“7,802 “adverse event” reports to CDC since Gardasil was approved”
You can look up their story at their site.</p>
<p>How about exclusive sex with only one partner , for life</p>
<p>I caught Hep B, long after I was married ( and long before a vaccine)- no risk factors-
No one else in my family has it.
I was tested when pregnant with second child and was negative, I was tested again when I gave blood after I quit nursing and was positive.
Things are more transmissible than we think.</p>
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[Hepatitis</a> B: Fact Sheet | CDC Viral Hepatitis](<a href=“Division of Viral Hepatitis | CDC”>Division of Viral Hepatitis | CDC)</p>
<p>So where did I get it?</p>
<p>( my daughters have now had the vaccine)</p>
<p>My doctor doesn’t offer Gardasil until the girl is at least 14 (I believe). However, I will admit, I did get nauseous and faint when I got my shots, however fainting is common with me whenever needles are involved. Nausea is not all that normal for me, but as soon as I was given the shot, nurses kept asking me if I was nauseous and whatnot, so I understand that it was common.</p>
<p>I honestly think that Gardasil benefits WAY more than harms and it would be stupid not to get a vaccine that may prevent cancer.</p>
<p>As to perceived side effects, once again correlation and causation rear their heads. Because the vaccination is a memorable event, if people experience something after they have been vaccinated, they tend to associate that with the vaccine. It could have been the ham sandwich, something else etc. but if they remember the shot, that is what they attribute it to. Whenever a very large number of people of vaccinated, statistically some of them will have some kind of health episodes thereafter, which in most cases have nothing to do with the vaccine. These are things that would have happened anyway, but they get linked to the vaccination.</p>
<p>One additional note on this–this isn’t like vaccines for other communicable diseases, where you are basically protected as long as everybody else gets the vaccine. At least until boys also routinely get the vaccine, HPV will be out there.
Decisions like this are always a matter of weighing risks and benefits. The people who really understand the risks and benefits are saying that the right play is to get the vaccine.</p>
<p>Cartera- My oldest daughter fainted about 10 minutes after the first shot and was fine after that. No big deal, but unusual for her. My younger daughter had no ill effects after the first, but about an hour or two after the second she developed severe back pain, followed by a headache, disorientation, and then later nausea. She was okay the next morning, but was terrified until she was able to fall asleep, since she could do nothing to “reverse” what she had just put into her body. She really is concerned about the safety because that is not what most would call a “normal” reaction to a vaccine. We clearly feel that the event was caused by the vaccination and not a coincidence.</p>
<p>“”“How about exclusive sex with only one partner , for life”“”</p>
<p>I meet hubby when I was a teen. He was my first and only and I was his.</p>
<p>Later in life, I caught a terrible cold and terrible laryngitis. The cold went away, but my voice never returned to normal. After seeing a specialist, the doctor discovered I had a growth on my vocal cord. I had it removed surgically and my voice returned. The biopsy indicated I had an HPV infection in my throat. So, the growths return, year after year. Ten years later, and 20 or so procedures, I now have a permanently hoarse voice. </p>
<p>Seems that I wasn’t hubby’s one and only after all.</p>
<p>Gardasil is expected to be effective at ANY AGE at preventing certain cervical cancers. If a women has had no sexual contact, Gardasil should be as effective in preventing HPV at age 11 as at age 26.</p>
<p>Following is a quote from the WebMD site:
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<p>I think this vaccine is wonderful and wish they had come out with it sooner. I will be glad when they start giving it to boys as well.</p>
<p>If it is true that HPV can be finger transferred to another individual by intimate contact, then a vaccine such as gardisil should probably be administered at birth.:rolleyes: Diaper changing is non-sexual, but clearly intimate contact with the genitals of an infant/child. Just following the logic of the findings in one of Emeralkity’s above links, it would seem that there’s a reasonable chance that one could transfer the virus to very young individuals without any sexual contact whatsoever.</p>