<p>Anyone know how competitive their IEOR program is?</p>
<p>Like all engineering oriented majors, it is difficult. I never knew that many people who were in it, but I understood it was not as hard as say EECS, but it was stll challenging. My sage advice once again: Study early, study often. Do not procrastinate and fall behind.</p>
<p>That advice might be difficult to take now, seeing as my verdict is going to arrive in like, 5 hours ><</p>
<p>Relax kiddo, youāll be fine.</p>
<p>I am not in engineering but I would think engineering is not a competitive major, it is just extremely difficult. Engineers help each other out like crazy and engineers that do well as usually work with other engineers all the time.</p>
<p>Does anyone know what the average gpa is in Berkeley?
(as in not of the applicants who apply/are accepted)</p>
<p>It has steadily increased over the past few years. When I arrived, it was about a 2.8, now itās like 3.1. I graduated with around a 3.5. Itās doable, but I worked hard.</p>
<p>How hard would it be to get a 4.0?</p>
<p>I swung a 3.8 one semester, but I was a freakinā hermit. Maybe if I had studied one more hour a day or skipped dinner once in awhile, I would have gotten a 4.0 ā however, I found a good work/life balance and got a 3.5-3.6 consistently. Iād much rather have the slightly lower GPA and a much more well-rounded life.</p>
<p>Of course, Iām probably not as smart as some of the students at Cal (well, former student here), so your results may differ.</p>
<p>are you guys serious that if I am going premed (majoring in neurobiology) that I should definitely go elsewhere, like ucsd?</p>
<p>does anyone know if the political science courses (iām planning to minor in polisci) are difficult at berkeley? is there a lot of grade deflation since itās such a popular major?</p>
<p>Hi Andrew ^_^</p>
<p>Iām planning on Applying for Haasā¦ >.<
Iāve submitted my SIR and Iām crapping in my pants right now. Too late to change schoolsā¦ 
{probably dun wanna either}
If I canāt get into Econ/Bizā¦ o.Oā¦ <em>heart attack</em></p>
<p>umā¦ soā¦ can you describe the process?
How hard was it? What did you think you/other rejected people were missing? </p>
<p>What should I do if I donāt get in? {If I donāt make it for both Econ and Haas}</p>
<p>If I do get in, what careers are avaliable? Is there a 5 year MBA program, aka MBA + undergrad in 5 yrs? How bout preparation for CPA? Do I need EC after I got into Haas/ whatever major?</p>
<p>I really enjoy Environmental science/ bioā¦ but is it stupid to consider double majoring in that just because I like it? Should I just double major in Poly Sci cause itās more useful?</p>
<p>I realize that essay+ EC are around 40% weight, just how good do those need to be?! How many clubs/hours/leadership? Also, does being hall rep count? How hard is it to get elected for senate or other position? How do you even apply? What should I do freshman year if I wanna?</p>
<p>How high do I need to get my GPA? o.o
{3.5-7 isnāt high enough?! << didnāt even get that high consistently in high school}</p>
<p>o.o
<em>hyperventilates + faints</em></p>
<p>Please give an honestly answerā¦ aka what you would do yourself :D</p>
<p><< tired of counselor answers like ādo what you enjoy!ā or āRiverside is just as good as Cal!ā or āI believe in you!ā</p>
<p>Thanks!
{<< is libertarian tooā¦ so many people forget us :(ā¦ but I vote democrat cause I value social liberty more than economic conservativeness, and cause the republicans arenāt fiscally conservative anywaysā¦ they just pretend to be =____=}</p>
<p>lots of threads about haas admissionsā¦ search</p>
<p>for senate getting 400+ number 1 votes is enough to secure a seat. the cutoff was 367~ this year.</p>
<p>become a calso counselor. all intended business calso counselors this past summer got in this year. though this is not a guarantee for all ;)</p>
<p>Thanks for the post. Iām considering accepting berkeley but Iām in La La land, single mom nontraditional student. Iām from the Bay Area, so I know the drill. Itās not the big scary place one of my professors makes it out to be. </p>
<p>āBack in the 60ās there was a murder you knowā</p>
<p>Iām white but not really vanilla, definitely not your carbon copy cut out. Any and all advice is appreciated!</p>
<p>Is it true that if you plan on going to Med school (you mentioned med school + having a lifeā¦), that Cal is not right for you? That itās so competitive and ridiculously hard to get in after undergrad, because they drop 2/3 of the potential med students?</p>
<p>blueducky, I wasnāt premed, but know enough students who are or were premed and went the route of MCB who did express concern that it was very difficult to get a high GPA in the major, and as you know, GPA is very important in med school applications. It appeared that the bulk of pre-med students were concentrated in that MCB major, which is very tough, but you can also do Integrative Biology, which is equally good preparation. Or you can do something very unique and major in something totally different but still fulfill the pre-reqs. That would certainly help you stand out as well as give your GPA a boost. Keeping up a high science GPA is always difficult, but if you feel you have strong capabilities in the field of science, I see no reason why it would not be possible to do well. I have a friend still there who is pulling a 3.8 premed in the MCB major. She studies all day and night of course, but itās something important to her, so she does it. If itās important to you as well, Iām sure you can do it. If you really feel you can better excel at another school, then do what you feel is right. But my view is that if you are bright enough to get accepted to Cal, you can do well if you work hard. It certainly doesnāt seem to be stopping all of the other premed MCB majors after all! 
My opinion after going to Cal is that the school doesnāt offer any major that is truly easy (except maybe MassComm, hehe), but once you get here you quickly learn to rise to that challenge.</p>
<p>Iām going to Notre Dame next year and turned down Berkeley in a heartbeat back in April, and lately Iāve been rethinking my decision.</p>
<p>I think the most important message one can get out of this thread is that there are good and bad aspects to every college; there is no such thing as the āperfectā college. One must decide which factors are most important when making a college choice.</p>
<p>join the club indie jimmy. i turned down ucla for cal, and havenāt stopped thinking about it since.</p>
<p>āBut my view is that if you are bright enough to get accepted to Cal, you can do well if you work hard. It certainly doesnāt seem to be stopping all of the other premed MCB majors after all! My opinion after going to Cal is that the school doesnāt offer any major that is truly easy (except maybe MassComm, hehe), but once you get here you quickly learn to rise to that challenge.ā</p>
<p>Good words. I will add that the only way I think one can succeed at it is IF the major is really something one has a passion for. OK, if itās a hard major that is (like MCB, etc). I donāt think everyone studies day and night purely out of discipline, there probably has to be something more to it! Such as med school really really being important to them, as was said.</p>
<p>Donāt try to be a premed at Cal if youāre going to take it lightly, though. I.e., just another hardworking student who doesnāt really know what to do with him/herself. I mean, sure, try it, but I think you might as well do something else. </p>
<p>All the best! (Note - I am not a premed at all, but have one of those roommates who always has his door shut, and is always upto his work - have spoken with him).</p>
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Last time I checked Asians made up 42% of undergraduate students. How is that a supermajority? Itās definitely a plurality though.</p>