Getting into Cal and what to expect when you finally get there

<p>Crap, I’m white, jewish, and conservative. I guess Cal probably isn’t the place for me, lol.</p>

<p>Schwartz, don’t worry, I have a friend who’s white and definitely in no way liberal. I’d decide based on other factors. You’ll find plenty of people like me who’re relatively detached from the political mania, though if you want political mania, you’ll find plenty of that too.</p>

<p>would choosing a specific major over undeclared in L&S adversely affect my chances of getting in? I chose environmental sciences, which is in both the L&S and natural resources college. Is this a competitive major? I am starting to regret not choosing undeclared. Should I be worrying?</p>

<p>“Crap, I’m white, jewish, and conservative. I guess Cal probably isn’t the place for me, lol.”</p>

<p>So am I. And I love going to school at Cal.</p>

<p>No problem, Schwartz, there’s Hillel and sadly (imo) way too many conservative groups (albeit mostly Christian). Always thought jewish and conservative in the same sentence was very '80’s, but to each his own.</p>

<p>asd, I chose ES and got into CNR – a great little college on campus. It may be because that’s what I chose that got me in, because CNR has about 1,000 students, really close knit and super cool. Sally Fairfax kind of inspired me, but she retired, although she’s still around. </p>

<p>About AA, my dad always laughs about some legal decision in the '70’s I think it was – Bakke – he said some white guy fought the UC on affirmative action and won, thinking, hey, means more whites get in. Little did he know. . . !</p>

<p>when you say that CNR is really small, does that mean that it will be more difficult to get in? I don’t think that I should be worrying, but you know how your mind can wander through the what if’s right before decisions.</p>

<p>No because the number of people applying to CNR is also small. Generally, engineering is harder to get into than the other colleges, and the rest are about the same in admissions difficulty.</p>

<p>I didn’t apply undeclared. I THINK I put down Electrical Engineering or something.</p>

<p>Did I just kill my chances? :(</p>

<p>I’m not going to lie, Electrical Engineering is much harder to get into than undeclared (although both are hard). However, if you want to do EE then there’s no other way around it…</p>

<p>Hello!</p>

<p>I have a couple of questions, although I am not sure that this is the appropriate thread to ask them. First, I see many people say that UCSD is better for bioengineering, than UCB, however is it the same in the case of biology (in particular, developmental biology and molecular genetics)? Also, how hard is the Molecular and Cell Biology major, compared to say, Engineering? </p>

<p>Thank you in advance for the responses!</p>

<p>not sure if ucsd bio > ucb bio. im pretty sure they’re about equal, which means it really doesnt matter. </p>

<p>mcb versus engineering.
they’re both hard, but maybe in different ways. mcb more so because there are so many damn mcb majors, most of whom are premeds. engineering is also tough, but probably because the material itself may be harder for many people. in both it’s hard to get A’s, no question. but it’s not undoable.</p>

<p>What about UCB’s standing on pre-med and public health?</p>

<p>Is it better or anbout equal to UCLA’s?</p>

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<p>There’s a girl I really like at school, but I don’t have the guts to tell here. Help me out</p>

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<p>UCB has a higher pre-med admit rate than UCLA’s. But it might be harder to get a good GPA in pre-med classes at UCB than UCLA. Either way it’s tough.</p>

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<p>Ask her out on a date, or for dinner, or something. Or don’t and be depressed.</p>

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<p>I would conjecture that most people making it into engineering at UCB could make it into bioengineering at UCSD, just because UCs tend to play a somewhat numerical admissions game, and UC Berkeley tends to go for the higher end students. Hence, you may want to consider that many students believe they can get a good education at both these schools, and that for an undergraduate, the difference between the bioengineering facilities + faculty + program may not be as important as is played out. Our engineering department is, after all, all round very reputed. Maybe this sort of thing matters more for graduate school.</p>

<p>After all, a similar argument says that while UC Berkeley’s many engineering departments may be ranked, say above Caltech’s, it’s a reality that most students who could make it into Caltech could make it into Berkeley. And I don’t think one would be crazy to choose to study engineering at Caltech instead of at Berkeley – as an undergrad, unless you’re already VERY VERY sure about wanting to do cutting edge work in a very narrow area, the specialized rankings probably won’t matter to you, and going to any rigorous program that fits your needs, with strong peers, is ideal. You may find that your peers push you more to do well than your program does, for one thing.</p>

<p>“If you REALLY REALLY want to go to Med School or be an engineer going to grad school and have a social life, go elsewhere. Otherwise, come and enjoy.”</p>

<p>Is this true?! This worries me a little.</p>

<p>I want the full college experience of hard work and fun, but its hard for me to believe that Berkeley makes one unable to have both… I’m an engineering major, btw.</p>

<p>In high school, I’ve managed to get straight A’s, take 8 AP classes, and still go to parties on fridays and saturdays.</p>

<p>Is this impossible to achieve at UCB?!?!</p>

<p>I’m with this guy (hHallmark). That phrase really worried me. Sort of making me not want to go to Cal now.</p>

<p>Well, if you’re in engineering, don’t expect to get all A’s and have an awesome social life. Possible, but very hard.</p>

<p>But, you’ll get over it. Having all A’s in college isn’t nearly as important as having all A’s in high school. Unless you really want to get into a great grad school. But there’s a good chance you’ll change your mind about that too.</p>

<p>Even if you’re engineering (and pre-med), you can get the grades and have fun. It really depends on the individual. One of the engineering guys on my floor got the highest scorei on the Physics 7A midterm and he spends at least 2 hours a day playing video games and he has a full courseload of 16 units. Then there are people who are taking the engineering school minimum of 11 units and struggling for a B or a C in the same class. You really have to know yourself and your abilities before you can say whether or not you can get all As and still party. In college, it might be even tougher to control the urge to party since you don’t even have to wait until Friday or Saturday to party; you can start on Thursday. Getting As and having a social life is possible, but you just need to figure out whether not its possible for you and to what extent. I think this applies to all colleges except community/junior colleges (which are pretty much an extension of high school so if you really want to be sure that you can get straight As and party hard like you did in high school just go there and not bother with Cal or wherever else you’re considering).</p>

<p>Yup ^^ be honest with yourself, and work to building your abilities. People don’t run into trouble with things generally because they’re too hard, they run into trouble because they hadn’t anticipated/known what to expect, and thus had not adequately prepared.</p>