Graduating Early

<p>Plan A is to graduate normally with my 2011 class and attend college in the fall. Plan B is to graduate a semester early and transfer up to a UC or something in the fall. </p>

<p>I’m currently a junior in HS, but I have enough credits to graduate early. I also have enough units to transfer as a junior in college. In HS, I have a pretty decent GPA, strong extracurriculars, and lots of leadership experience, but I am still very worried. During this economic time, acceptance rates have gone down, yadiyadiya. </p>

<p>Still, there are a lot of things to consider:

  • leave and miss out on the rest of senior year (sort of b/c I can still come back during break and still do senior activities, etc. not really missing much except for time with friends)
  • junior status at college so how do I deal with this? do I still get to dorm with freshmen?
  • stay and maybe not get to where I need to go because of economy?</p>

<p>I would really like to get into UCSD and the like, and I understand that the transfer pool is much easier to succeed in, but I would like to hear other’s thoughts on this.</p>

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From what? Dual enrollment or APs? What major?
Note that you need at least 1 semester of CCC full time to be considered a transfer applicant.

For transfer admission, HS GPA doesn’t matter. They don’t even look at it. You also don’t need the SAT/ACT.
In specific, for UCSD, they don’t even read the personal statements. And you can have guaranteed admission with TAG.</p>

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Like you said, you would not be missing out on much. All you’d be missing out on is the classes.</p>

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It is possible, but you would have lowest priority and it would be difficult.

Please fill us in on a little more information.
If you have taken any APs, list them.
If you have taken any College courses, list them.
Major?
When you plan to apply to a UC as a transfer?
IGETC?
Do you know about TAG?</p>

<p>Enjoy your time in high school, live a little.</p>

<p>Transferring into a UC means you have to take 60 units of college stuff, and you definitely don’t get to stay in the freshmen dorms. </p>

<p>AFAIK UCSD you get the option of almost-on-campus apartments that cost $1200-1400 a month. </p>

<p>I’d say you were nuts if you wanted to go in as a transfer! I wish I had done my high school so that I went straight in and was a graduate by now!</p>

<p>^you can stay with freshmen in dorms…i don’t know about normal transfers though i assume it’s the same, but i know some 1-year transfers who have been able to stay in dorms with freshmen…</p>

<p>Transferring in at Junior level requires 90 quarter units, of these, you can only earn a max of 44 units from AP tests*. Unless you’ve taken 3-4 AP classes each semester and the equivalent of a full year at some community college, you’re still going to be regarded as a lower division transfer, not junior.</p>

<p>The rules for lower division transfer are different than upper division, your HS grades, SAT/ACT scores still count.</p>

<p>*[University</a> of California - Counselors](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/adminfo/freshman/advising/credit/aptest.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/adminfo/freshman/advising/credit/aptest.html)</p>

<p>I’m 18 and am a junior transfer from a CCC for this fall. I skipped my senior year of high school though, got my GED, and then went to community college. What I would recommend:</p>

<p>Do what feels right. If high school is starting to bore you and you’re positive you’re getting a degree, just leave. There’s no point staying in high school for school if you have the credits to go. Sure there are friends and activities to consider, but getting ahead and skipping a few years is not only innovative but smart…as long as you can handle the workload.</p>

<p>I would honestly say that leaving high school for college was the best decision that I have ever made. Maybe that decision could have the same affect on your life. Good luck.</p>

<p>thats amazing ur 18 and transferring as a junior… congrats mr./ms. sinclair lol</p>

<p>Thanks! Mr. actually lol. I nearly failed out of high school. Switching to my CCC and abandoning high school was the best decision of my life by far, and I’ve been really lucky. Sort of a good rags to good UC story lol. Also was helpful for the personal statement. What’s your major and top choices? lol you’ve probably told me or mentioned it in other threads as we’re both fairly active on these boards, but I can’t remember off the top of my head.</p>

<p>lol yeah i F***ed up big time in high school also, getting a provisional acceptance to CSU Chico only if i completed chem and intermediate algebra in summer lol</p>

<p>I am Philosophy major applying to UCB UCLA SB and SD 3.7 GPA…</p>

<p>I think its going to come down to UCLA and USC for me if i get in everywhere. You have your heart set on Berk?</p>

<p>@feedayeen where does it say you can only apply a max of 44 ap units!? i don’t see it anywhere and from what counselors and a uc berkeley rep have told me, i’ve been able to apply 48 ap units towards the 90 quarter unit minimum…because of all of this and summer community college classes and concurrent enrollment while in high school i was able to start the fall quarter at community college with 74 uc transferable quarter units already done without having even been really trying to accumulate units to transfer quickly so i’m sure OP can easily reach junior level transfer status</p>

<p>@OP leaving high school seems like a great idea to me, when i was in high school i was always really busy with schoolwork and other school related activities, when starting community college with the max number of units possible and honors courses i thought i was going to be overwhelmed, but far from it, i found that i had more free time than ever before, the classes so far have all been a lot easier than ap’s in high school, and with this free time i’ve been able to actually spend a lot of time volunteering and working a job and an internship (~30 hours a week on volunteering and internship and another ~20 hours working), having all of this time to spend would’ve been inconceivable for me in high school…</p>

<p>just curious… how do early graduates fare at uc’s?</p>

<p>@Eshug, you know it. I love Berkeley, and I live 20 mins away. I would live on campus, though, because I want that experience. I applied as a Phil major with a really similar GPA, but I think I’m going to switch to Psych lol. I actually applied Psych to UCLA and Davis. How come your tops are USC and UCLA? Are you from socal? </p>

<p>haha great to hear that I’m not alone by doing horribly in high school and turning it around. Yeah…I don’t think I would have even gotten into chico lol. I was truant (missed too much class) and received multiple F’s and D’s. I can’t wait to go to a university though man, I’m so ready. </p>

<p>UCLA is probably my second choice. I love the area, prestige, research opportunities, and overall feel from what I’ve read on here. I’ve never actually visited yet.</p>

<p>@lomkh, I completely agree. You have a ridiculous amount of free time (unless you’re taking 20+ units or work) compared to high school. High school has sports, games that one can attend, clubs, EC’s, honors programs, theatre, and tons of other things that can leave very little free time or time for getting a part-time job/internship. Btw lomkh, that’s really impressive that you work/volunteer/internship for 50 hours per week through school. I was doing about 24 hours per week last semester with 18 units, but since then I’ve been burnt out lol and am just sticking with a straight 16 units for now and no volunteer work/job.</p>

<p>@emilsinclair9 yea, i totally know what you mean by burnt out…i’ve done many things in the past, but thankfully in CC i’ve finally got it so every single activity i do (except maybe some classes lol) is something i actually enjoy doing, such as the volunteering and the internship, and while the job isn’t thoroughly enjoyable, it’s generally alright and pays :]</p>

<p>@lomkh</p>

<p>I used this link.</p>

<p>[University</a> of California - Counselors](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/adminfo/freshman/advising/credit/aptest.html]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/educators/counselors/adminfo/freshman/advising/credit/aptest.html)</p>

<p>It doesn’t say it directly, but it does say “At all campuses, a maximum of 8 quarter units are allowed in each of the following areas: Art (Studio), English, Mathematics, Music and Physics. A maximum of 4 quarter units are allowed in Computer Science.”</p>

<p>Which I interpreted as saying that you can only transfer 8 * 5 + 4 units.</p>

<p>My bad.</p>

<p>Hello all,
Thank you for all the encouraging comments. So far, I’ve taken 5 Honors classes and will have a total of 5 APs at the end of the year. I already have 52 semes. units at the CC done; I should have 60 by the summer. I’m thinking that if I graduate a semester early, I can use the remaining semester to fulfill the 1 year requirement, right? Does this method allow me to enter college at the same time as my friends (who will be freshmen) do?</p>

<p>At HS, I’m involved in 2 sports, president of 2 clubs, and in ASB. I’m also fairly involved in my community. I’m thinking that I want to major in medicine and minor in business, but things change. I’m still not really sure on what I want to do.</p>

<p>Does anyone have any info on the TAP or TAG programs for UCB or UCLA? What about transferring to private schools like Notre Dame or SCU?</p>

<p>@wwlink: Could you explain more about why you think it’d be a bad move to transfer in? Just want to hear both sides…</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>*Also, I am only missing 1-2 classes for IGETC; I think I can meet those req. by this summer.</p>

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No.</p>

<p>Based on the information you listed, the earliest you could apply to transfer is Fall 2011 for the Fall 2012 session (your peers will be starting UCs in Fall 2011). You can’t apply as a transfer student when you are still in high school; you have to be enrolled full time (ie, no special admission) non-summer at least 1 semester by the end of the period you are applying.</p>

<p>1) Apply as a Freshman
2) Complete the IGETC. Note that you don’t have to be a transfer student for the IGETC*, but you must complete it before you start.
3) Your UC-transferable CCC coursework will still transfer over.
4) It won’t be complicated to dorm with other Freshmen since you applied as one.
5) You will still have a good chance at admission as a Freshman because you completed all of those units. I personally know somebody who got into UCLA as a Freshman with a 3.56 UW HS GPA, 1980 SAT because he had accumulated 65 units and all prereqs for his major. With all those units, you will almost be treated like a transfer student when you apply as a Freshman.
6) Finish HS to get the full experience, and still be 2 years ahead with general education completed.
7) Although you would be admitted as a Freshman, you will still have junior level status. They define status based on units.
8) Also, with transfer admission, it is a lot harder to switch your major, and you stated you did not know what you wanted to do. Entering as a Freshman will give you more flexibility with this.</p>

<p>*proof:
A student may be IGETC certified if they have completed coursework at a California Community College(s) without regard to current enrollment status or number of units accrued at a CCC.
<a href=“http://www.asccc.org/icas/docs/final%20igetc_standards_v1_1_06-04-09.pdf[/url]”>http://www.asccc.org/icas/docs/final%20igetc_standards_v1_1_06-04-09.pdf&lt;/a&gt; [2.2]</p>

<p>Thank you, rpicton, but now I am confused.
I just recently got a reply from a UC counselor and he said that I can apply to transfer during Fall 2010, so long as I list that I will graduate in Jan. He also said that so long as I attend 1 regular quarter, I am still considered a transfer student.
Has anyone else gone through this process and succeeded?</p>

<p>I have another question: priority for lower division transfer < junior level transfer? or are those the same? I am confused.</p>

<p>Seriously confused.</p>