Group Think? Are we offering solid advice? Are we being influenced too much by rankings?

I tried ChatGPT 4 and it was right on. We already have our decisions so it was easy to compare. The only one ChatGPT said might be more competitive was the one we were waitlisted at.

Perhaps counselors at school should have the kids do this first before sending applications to a million reaches. :thinking:

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Will start a thread in Chance Me

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But the flip side to this is that for many, many families, the more selective schools that meet need are the ONLY schools they can afford. I talk to kids all the time whose parents will not allow them to apply to a Yale or Colgate or Lafayette because of the sticker price. Instead the apply to small state schools or regional LACs that will never come close to matching the out-of-pocket those other places.

If you are high stats and your SAI is 5000, apply to Colgate!

Have you or @Izzy74 tried it with Google’s Gemini (replacement for Bard)?

Oh no, I’m not going to bother. You could try!

I really only did it earlier in the thread because of the mention of AI as a parlour game. I’m glad people are finding it interesting and maybe helpful, but I’m also slightly surprised at how much interest there is!

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Maybe someone else will… @Izzy74 ??

I just tried this in Gemini, and while it did rate my kid’s college list for likelies & reaches, it also suggested that he might enjoy Northeastern’s Charlotte, North Carolina campus. When I pointed out that this campus did not exist, it said I should remember that it was still in training mode & its output might be inaccurate.

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I did! Check out my thread in Chance Me.

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Ok, I stand corrected—thank you!

Your passion for helping students here exceeds all expectations. So sorry.

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Group Think? Are we offering solid advice? Are we being influenced too much by rankings?

At this point it is probably worth further discussion.

…and 3.6ish is not a great GPA for a OOS applicant. And there’s no 1500+ SAT to counter that. UW is likely a WL or reject I think. The unhooked kids getting in from OOS are typically high-stat (3.8+, 1450+).

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This student was accepted. And their acceptance would be in line with the experience of kids from our HS in MA - we’ve got an acceptance rate at Wisconsin of about 60% and kids with gpa’s in the 3.6 range have largely been accepted (without sky high SATs either). Of course, this student is a humanities major - not gunning for CS or Engineering. If those were the preferred majors, no, a 3.67 wouldn’t be good enough.

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As an aside, I think sometimes some people I encounter online do not fully understand that some relatively high acceptance rates at publics are produced when those publics do not get a lot of frivolous applications from people without competitive qualifications. This is true for many public universities outside of the few most popular, where HS guidance counselors and such tend to be pretty good about explaining to in-state kids at which in-state colleges they are competitive or not, and maybe not bad with nearby OOS options as well, as that is where most of their college-bound kids are looking.

But that high acceptance rate doesn’t really mean anything if you apply without the normal qualifications of the people being accepted.

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Yeah, I was going off of the results thread for this year – nearly every OOS kid who got in had high stats.

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But this is CC - overabundance of super high stats kids, many of whom are looking at CS and engineering.

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What?

There are other careers besides CS, engineering and IB?

And you can score below 1500 on the SAT? Really? I thought that was the minimum.

I thought it was odd that multiple kids have cured cancer or traveled to the moon - but after being on here, I realized, I was not the norm…these kids are!!

hmmmm - I thought for sure that we are dealing with typical society here.

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Right. The bar would be higher for the competitive majors.

Was going to add finance to this list.

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