I know they require either 3 years of high school FL or completion of the second semester of FL at a college. Unfortunately I took 2 years of German in high school 12 years ago so I have some language classes to take. Yay!
With that said, what is considered the “second semester”? For City College of San Francisco, for instance, they offer German 1 - Elementary German (5 units) and German 2 - Intermediate German (5 units). But they also offer German 1A - Elementary German (3 units) and German 1B - Continuation of Elementary German (3 units).
Which is considered the second semester? German 2 or German 1B?
The five unit courses are the equivalent of two semesters of the three unit courses (6 units total). Just make sure that your CCC has that lower 5 unit course fulfilling IGETC. There are a few CCCs (my daughter’s included) that requires the equivalent of two years of language to qualify for IGETC (meaning she had to take two 5-unit courses.
@lindyk8 I think the requirement is just the second class though right? At my CC my counselor waived me into Span 2 even though ive never taken Span 1, since I already speak read and write fluently and the fact that UCB would probably not give me credit for the first semester anyway.
Well Haas doesn’t even want IGETC so it’s irrelevant for you. But my daughter had to complete IGETC and even though the UC rule is the equivalent of two semesters, her CCC had some stupid rule that to get IGETC you need the equivalent of two years. I’ve seen that a few places. God knows why.
So, yeah, you’re fine. Sorry if I got you panicked…
Turns out it was a dumb question and even though I had done my homework, I ended up a bit confused …. but this cleared it up, created some new questions, and I found the answers.
One thing I found interesting is that I can satisfy the FL requirement at CCSF with their American Sign Language 1A and 1B, two 3-unit classes, instead of doing two 5-unit classes. At my primary school, Napa Valley College, ASL is two 5-unit classes.
I’d really like to do German again, but time just isn’t on my side and taking lower units on something like this would be good. Also, the practicality (compared to German) intrigues me.
@lindyk8 Hmmmm, that’s interesting and I didn’t think of it that way. The assist page does show AMSL (American Sign Language) as a course that satisfies the FL requirement though, so it’s weird that your link seems to contradict that.
I don’t know. I’ve seen it written that way a few times. My daughter thought about doing it, but changed her mind because it really seems to be saying you need to do it in another language.
Yes, let us know. My younger D wants to apply to Hass undergrad in a few years and thought about ASL, but now will have to choose between Span or Mandarin.
The weird thing about it is it says the word American, and where the hell are you going to learn it in another language? And woukdnt the signing all be the same anyway?
I think I am going to email Hass and Berkeley general transfer admissions.
^^^ ok, duh, that was dumb! So it means you need to learn another actual language and then apply ASL to that. So in essence it would mean two languages, if that rule applies.
And if you get an A in ASL then what? They need to check you to see if you can sign when someone is speaking Spanish? It doesn’t really make sense.
BTW, I was referring to ME being dumb with my post before about learning sign in another language. Not you, @luckie1367. That’s what I hate - your post wasn’t showing when I updated mine. I’m DUMB! Not you… :x
I just saw that mix-up now… (P.S. Never doing ^^^^ again.)
Anyhow, I was referring to confusing UC link, post #7. It says signing in English doesn’t fulfill the LOTE.
Haha, geez, I’m glad I just saw your post wedged between mine! That is good to know about different variations, because I seriously thought it would have been universal, save for a few random idiosyncrasies.
Anyhow, I think we can all agree the message on the UC site is a little weird.
Wow. Well this thread definitely turned interesting! I’m going to explore ASL (AMSL) as fulfilling the requirement, but per the articulation agreement, it should. I hope it does as the scheduling looks like it would really work for me, being able to do evening classes of it in SF once or twice a week, as I’ll likely be doing a calculus sequence at Solano in the mornings so I won’t have to worry about a scheduling conflict. It’s also nice that this 6 unit sequence will (or should) fulfill the requirement, as opposed to a 10 unit sequence for basically every other language, or even AMSL at Napa Valley College.
@lindyk8, if you see or hear anything different, please let me know!