Hall of fame voting..no baseball fans?

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<p>One thing, you have to look at the position the player played. </p>

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<p>And this…you can just search for a player</p>

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<p>I think if I was a Detroit Tiger fan I would be angry. ( If I cared that much.:slight_smile: )</p>

<p>Whitaker and Trammell are screwed. I thought they were pretty damn good.</p>

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<p>dstark I have to agree with you on career value it absolutely has its place. I see why they have guys that compile stats in the hall. I just wish there was some recognition for guys that were more than a flash in the pan but just did not last over 10 years. Can you imagine if Koufax had one less great year and never made the hall because of it. I also agree that Will Clark, Don Mattingly and Dale Murphy did not keep it going for long enough but if you were a GM and had to sign someone to a 4 year contract in their prime do you sign Biggio over any of them?</p>

<p>Yes the position matters.</p>

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<p>Biggio had 4 awesome years. </p>

<p>Maybe I wouldn’t take him, buy it wouldn’t be a no brainer for me.</p>

<p>I still think Koufax is the number 1 pitcher in our lives. I would definitely take Koufax, maybe over anybody. Maybe, I would take Mays. </p>

<p>When we were growing up, I watched the All Star games. I thought the games were a big deal then, but of course I was a kid. Willie Mays was the best player in those all star games. So, to me he was the best player in that era. He was the best of the best.
Your recollection may be different tom1944. What do you remember?</p>

<p>You told me before. What team did and do you root for?</p>

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<p>Koufax, Gibson were slightly before me. I will be 55 on Saturday. I was a Seaver fan. Used to argue about Seaver and Carlton. To me they were the two best. And please do not tell me Nolan Ryan was in the same discussion with those two.</p>

<p>I grew up a Mets fan. Besides Seaver my favorite player was Clemente</p>

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<p>Tom1944, I’m 56.</p>

<p>You don’t remember the 60’s?</p>

<p>I am not going to tell you Ryan was better than Seaver or Carlton. I don’t think Ryan was better. Everything I say here is an opinion anyway. I am not talking financial markets here. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>But, yeah Seaver and Carlton were fantastic. No argument from me.</p>

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<p>The Baseball Writers Association of America (BBWAA) website has the vote breakdown of over 100 voters. Some ballots had several names while others had only a few. I don’t know what the turnover is for the voters as most are sportswriters. Maybe a writer in the same city takes their place?</p>

<p>I predict a fight at dinnertime in Cooperstown should Bonds and Clemens ever get elected. I think the older HOFers will let them know exactly what they think of them judging by the comments made by Goose Gossage and others.</p>

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<p>Definitely ironic…</p>

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<p>dstark- I have baseball memories from the 1968 series Tigers/ Cardinals on.</p>

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<p>Wow…I remember that series too, but my first memory is the 1962 Giant-Dodger playoff. I was in my dad’s barber shop listening to the game that clinched the Giants’ pennant. I was so happy. It is amazing what can make a person happy. :)</p>

<p>I don’t remember the Yankee- Giant world series though. The series that McCovey lined the final out to Richardson. Maybe, I blocked that memory out.</p>

<p>At least you remember the 1969 Mets. :)</p>

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<p>My dad hated the Yankees and was a Brooklyn Dodger then NY Met fan. If the Mets would have been any good and played big games -like the Giants/Dodgers did in 62 I would have remembered those games I bet.</p>

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<p>That’s true. the Mets were pretty bad.</p>

<p>Even though I was a Giant fan, and I still am, I never hated the Dodgers. I liked the Dodgers, maybe because of Koufax. </p>

<p>I liked the Mets too. Maybe because they were the underdog.</p>

<p>Don’t care about the Yankees. Is Alex Rodriguez going to the hof? He is an admitted steroid user.</p>

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<p>By the time ARod is eligible this will have been cleared up. He will miss the first year as a penalty but get in after that. Bonds and Clemens are getting in one day.</p>

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<p>Well tom1944, you just ****ed off a bunch of posters. :)</p>

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<p>If Barry Bonds is not considered a HOFer they may as well not have one.</p>

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<p>It will be interesting to see how Bonds is treated going forward.</p>

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<p>ellemenope,</p>

<p>What is really ironic is that some of the users thought by taking PED’s they were guaranteeing their spots in Cooperstown.</p>

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<p>He was dominant with the Giants. Remember him with that tiny bat and the armor on his arm he just intimidated the pitchers.</p>

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<p>Tony- I bet they thought more of the payday than the Hall of Fame. Most did it because they needed it to stay in the league or so they thought.</p>

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<p>Of course I do…</p>

<p>That 73 homer year was amazing…</p>

<p>Bonds was a great player before steroids…</p>

<p>Sosa is another story…</p>

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<p>I was never a Sosa fan. Hey back to the HOF and stats. Is Garvey a hall of fame player? The offensive numbers were not inflated when he played.</p>