@leahgriffith123 100000% sure it’s Thursday and not any sooner and don’t worry, I’ve been queasy the past couple days and couldn’t sleep bc of this lol
No.
It’s over for you fools who ever doubted me!!!
Jk
Best of luck everyone!
Okay thanks anywho @skieurope @nijusohc
Yikes doesn’t sound like a deferral is anything to get excited about…but luckily by the time those notifications come out many will have moved on to another great school or at least have a pocket full of acceptances?
Did anyone send a resume?
@jojoisthebest yeah but it was my dance resume and it was with my supplement
@jojoisthebest nope I figured resume isn’t going to help me get in any more beyond what I told them thru common app and my essays
Curious to hear people’s thoughts on @emptydietcoke post from a few days ago …
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/2088794-harvard-university-class-of-2023-scea-applicants-p77.html (#1148)
Am I the ony one that just remembered he applied to Harvard?
Um, I’m going to be honest. I agree. The college process is extremely toxic and generally demands nothing less than perfection. I mean, Harvard adcoms and people on this thread will say that you don’t need to be perfect, but unless you have some extenuating circumstances that excuse you, you need to have the right stats, the right ECs, the right essays, and sometimes the right life experiences that they want their incoming freshman class to bring. In some countries, the process is not holistic and is based on test scores entirely, and that is very toxic. But in some ways, holistic admissions has evolved to be just as toxic, because now–not only do you have to make sure you have amazing stats–everythinge else about you has to be amazing too.
Because of how toxic and taxing this process is, American high school students have generally lost the sense of doing things for the sake of passion and every hour of community service, every EC, every essay, every test, every course is meticulously planned until a perfect applicant is created at the expense of the person.
I don’t feel like adcoms see me as human, at any university, no matter what they say or what people on CC say. They see me as someone who could possibly pay to attend and an investment of resources that will either be productive or unproductive and that is what they base their decisions upon. And it sucks. I don’t like feeling dehumanized but this is a society founded on competition and every little thing matters. Without an education, I can’t have the career I want, and now, all of a sudden, my potential for self-fulfillment is grounded in whether I get into a good college. But, as I said earlier, they don’t see me as a human with passions and goals, and my self-fulfillment does not matter to adcoms.
So yes, I think college admissions has created a toxic culture, not just because of the emphasis on numbers, but because–even though it is “holistic”–it is dehumanizing.
After all, why should my abilities, my social mobility, and the course of my life be determined by someone that doesn’t even know me at a personal level and doesn’t have my best interests at heart?
honestly, I think each person thinks of the college process differently depending on the perspective they view the process through. I don’t think it’s as toxic as some people make it out to be. It is only toxic if you make it to be toxic tbh, and only toxic if you start comparing yourself to standards of perfection. I am a strong believer in the fact that authenticity, originality, and creativity is one of the biggest deciding factors in admitting a student (if the student isn’t a big public figure’s child LOL). We’ll see if I’m partly right this Thursday though lol
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I agree it’s as toxic as you make it to be. People are still measured by a variety of sticks and it’s less stressful to be able to take more control of your application, in comparison to the testing system in my country, IMO.
Honestly, Harvard is my dream school but I know that I have so many wonderful wonderful options that I am going to turn out just fine wherever I go. I agree that it’s toxic but I also feel like as overachievers, we all put this pressure on ourselves
@lilyfullford I totally agree. I think that I’m pushing myself to get results I’m proud of. I really, really want to go to Harvard, but I also know that the result that I get in high school can help me in other applications. It’s not like “If it’s not Harvard, its not anything.” I completely understand that some parents are super pushy to get their children to an Ivy, but, in my experience, I push myself and know that I get what I put in, to some extent. I just really hope that I put enough in to get me to Harvard.
On a different note, do you think that Harvard accepts students to fill a certain quota? Like do you like that Harvard will accept a mediocre student simply because they play, for example, the tuba because the band needs another tuba whereas a stellar student who plays the violin will not be accepted because they have enough violin players?
honestly I play the tuba and I can’t see myself getting in because of that ? but I think they fill certain quotas especially with athletics. I’m not sure the same applies to music and arts. @leahgriffith123
oh haha that’s a funny coincidence. I just really hope it doesn’t apply in things like engineering (like they have enough people who did research or internships). But good luck! I hope that’s some good karma coming your way with the tuba!! @lilyfullford
@leahgriffith123 ik what you mean but that definitely oversimplifies it because no one is accepted for one reason alone (think, recruited athletes still have to have certain scores, GPA, etc). i think a more accurate way to see it would be that if harvard needs another tuba player, then an applicant who is otherwise very strong that they’re considering would have another point in their favor if they play the tuba. same thing with URM, some geographic locations; none of these things are enough to get someone admitted on their own, but can help to tip the scale
@ohboy234 What country/region are you from?
@dreamthief001 okay, thank you. that’s comforting. I don’t want to place judgment because it makes sense why they would do that. At the same time, that does make it a lot more stressful: it’s not necessarily even that you did something wrong to get deferred, it’s that you didn’t get that one specific thing right.