In light of your previous post #370, did you speak up and complain about it, at least when you were and adult, @lje63?
I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t but I can understand why the Hollywood folks were reticent to as well.
Seems not too surprising when considering the different power relationships (or perceived power relationships) in each type of situation.
@doschicos , yes I did , even as a teenager. And I also spoke for the two girls who quit because the old man made gross sexual comments. It was awkward with my boss from advertising job because the men who tried to get out of paying their bills ( which happened constantly with all sales reps ) used excuses that were thrown onto me. It was more than two decades ago and I was petite and cute, not sexy , not seductive by any stretch of the imagination.
That, however didn’t stop some of the men from trying to take advantage
Happened to me also. I was in a job and my supervisor was very inappropriate. No touching but verbally very inappropriate. I complained to the boss and was laid off a week later.
It was a win to the owner because he told me I could collect unemployment instead of firing me.
I had good friends who were law students at the time and they wanted me to file a complaint. I was just happy I wasn’t fired and could file for unemployment
@HotCanary - a very similar thing happened to me when I was a teenager taking a summer sculpture class. Besides the obvious shock, I had a terribly disillusioned feeling because I had liked the teacher and liked the class and thought he liked interacting with me and talking about the subject at hand. Nope, he just wanted to grab and waited for his chance. I didn’t go back, not even to pick up the rest of my work.
They do this to very young women for a reason. We are just more naive and trusting at that age and less likely to react in a way that is negative to them. Speak to young women to expect this to happen so they are warned!
@skieurope - my male friend’s harassment was more in the emailing of “images” along with suggestions rather than grabbing.
Here is a question I have for the woman here…is there anyone amongst us that HASN’T been sexually harassed or abused ?
I’m wondering when the music industry will come into the cross hairs.
Another dimension to the harassment and abuse and line-crossing is what females are expected to put up with from customers or clients. Oh, the stuff I smiled and laughed at when I was a young thing and working in a restaurant. “Don’t upset the guest!” Gah! I was enraged behind that fake smile and pretending not to be bothered.
@greenwitch Absolutely they do it to young naive pliant girls. I thought I was worldly in those days. I had no idea how to react to something like that. I think it’s a great idea if we all share our specific experiences. Sometimes the incident is so ridiculous that we are embarrassed to recount it. My eye doctor episode is embarrassing like that. It might be a good idea to state specifically what the man said or did, so girls and young women can recognize their own situations.It might help the younger generations.
“Here is a question I have for the woman here…is there anyone amongst us that HASN’T been sexually harassed or abused ?”
Raises hand.
I was appalled that Matt Damon came to HW’s defense and had me re-thinking my admiration for him. He has now come out with a statement that as a father of daughters, that kind of sexual predation keeps him up at night. (notice, no bashing of HW). And is being appropriately roasted for it on social media.
The part that I think nailed it:
“Keep in mind that women are not only ‘wives’ and ‘daughters’ but also, in fact, people,” one Twitter user snipped on Wednesday, in a tweet that got 14,000 likes.
“Men only humanize women when things affect women in their lives,” said another.
For his critics, it wasn’t that Damon mentioned his kids. But because he denounced sexual violence and mentioned that he was a father in the same breath, it seemed to them he was denouncing sexual violence merely because he is a father.
“You don’t need a daughter to feel guilty about working with a man who preys on young women,” wrote Hunter Harris for New York magazine. “You just need a conscience.”
Good. Now he’s been booted from the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences.
I wonder how Bill Cosby and Roman Polanski voted??
This has obviously been going on forever, and it’s good that people are finally more willing to name names. In the late 1940s, when she was at Columbia Law School, my mother was sexually assaulted by one of her professors, a famous legal scholar at the time. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Llewellyn. The idea of doing anything about it back then was, of course, inconceivable.
Why does the academy throw out Weinstein only? Toss all the predators.
If you toss all of them, who’s gonna be left? A handful?
I don’t think I have been. Either I am too unattractive, or I don’t come across as someone who would be easily intimidated. Or I have just been lucky. Or some combination of the above.
I suppose I have been in a few situations that could be described as sexual harassment, but they rolled off me like water off the proverbial duck’s back.
I have very definitely been punished for being an intelligent, outspoken woman who did not kowtow to men or try to please them. Very, very definitely. Starting as a young child.
Other than an attempted handholding, I have never been sexually harassed either. In my first job, however, I was denied opportunities because they involved travel with one of the senior partners, but it wasn’t the man who discriminated. It was his WIFE, who wouldn’t allow her husband to be out of town with another woman.
How about Arnold Swarzenegger?
@TatinG Was your boss Pence? 
“I have very definitely been punished for being an intelligent, outspoken woman who did not kowtow to men or try to please them. Very, very definitely. Starting as a young child.”
Oh, most definitely!