“Life advice?” I think most people look to Hollywood for entertainment – nothing more nothing less.
Spare me. I would be thrilled if they’d stick to playing make believe since that’s what they’re good at…instead of pretending that their opinion on politics, science, religion or any other topic matters any more than someone else’s. Or that they’re somehow more enlightened and informed than anyone else. Try spending a little more time policing their own backyard first.
Wait, the Italian actress that made a complaint, wore a wire and then still no charges were filed? That worked how?
Again, what finally worked is that another rich, powerful, white guy (his brother) wanted HW’s power and pushed the whole thing forward. And another rich, white guy with nothing to lose (Farrow) decided to take on the story.
And as the #metoo movement has shown, it’s pretty hard to find women who actually haven’t been victimized.
And who’s to say this wouldn’t have happened decades ago if more people would’ve spoken up. Because they didn’t…we’ll never know.
@Wolverine86 - What does any of that have to do with taking “life advice” from Hollywood? People only have as much credibility as you yourself give them. If you are looking to Hollywood for “life advice” that’s on you. They are entitled to their political opinions like anyone else – how much weight you put on those opinions rests with you.
I think women have tried over the years to speak up and it hasn’t gone well for them. I don’t think it typically hurts the men. I mean, how many people know that Alfred Hitchcock harrassed Tippi Hedron for example? How many of us remembered or noticed Courtney Love’s comment before it was brought back up? How many less famous women did try to speak up but were silenced before any of us heard?
Jane Fonda admitted she knew. Not only has she been rich and powerful for 40 years, but she has long been married to a man who is also rich and powerful in his own right with media access. There were many enablers.
@mom2twogirls … But does that mean they shouldn’t try? Hopefully these high-profile cases will bring about a change in the culture of multiple places where this type of behavior occurs…but HW’s abuse continued for years because the people who knew about it (men and women both) and had enough power to support the less famous…simply didn’t.
The LA District Attorney is publicly calling for victims to come forward with the hopes that they can take this to trial. Lets hope some justice can come to those victimized by him.
Why would Jane Fonda have any more responsibility to try to expose a man she suspected of being a predator than the many, many men in Weinstein’s orbit who had equal knowledge? Why is it always on the women? Many men knew. Why are they not being attacked here?
And if I were a famous female actor (ha ha ha, work with me here) who had heard rumors about Weinstein but hadn’t been assaulted myself, or even if I had been assaulted, I would have to look at the risks and rewards of attempting to expose him. Risk: I’d lose my career. Reward: almost certainly nothing; women accuse men from time to time, but rarely is there any consequence for the man. Why would I make this career-harming move that would almost certainly have no effect?
I have attacked all of them…and will continue to do so. It’s when others try to portray that as victim blaming that I take offense.
Ethics, morals, a conscience, concern for someone/something other than yourself or your career?
Re: meeting candidates in hotel rooms…
Pretty much all the “on-campus” law firm interviews at Harvard Law School take place in hotel rooms. Some of the giant firms have hospitality suites, but lots of them are in ordinary bedrooms, sometimes with just one older male interviewer. This is the same system – and even the same hotel – that we used when i interviewed in 2000 and 2001.
Yale Law does it the same way, at a local hotel. For both campuses, there is no other space that could provide the number of rooms required.
Good grief. My law school had special interview rooms at the school. A hotel room with a bed is awkward in that situation to say the least.
HW’s abuse continued because he continued to abuse.
In a perfect world, victims of crime would point out their accuser’s immediately and loudly, be believed and not face further trauma. I would hope I would be strong enough mentally, emotionally and financially to do so. But the truth is, I don’t know what I would do. I think we do a real disservice to victims when we, who haven’t walked in their shoes, further their pain by judging their actions.
Well I hope women have turned some sort of corner where one isn’t referred to as trailer park trash for accusing a well known man of sexual assault. That was the first major accusation I can recall and women did not support the woman. It set a sort of bar, that is, the woman is accused of just being out for money or fame. Or even worse, it’s all right if the person is someone you otherwise support. I think this is the sort of thing that wraps Woody Allen and Polanski in some sort of armor. People like their movies so the disgusting things they’ve done are excused.
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Jane Fonda heard about a year ago, from a friend who had been abused or harrassed IIRC. What power and influence could she have possibly had at that point? Look at the negative and unrelated comments about her already made here about her. It’s preposterous to claim she has a shred of responsibility for this particular mess with the information we have about her knowledge.
The only one who has responsibility for what HW did is HW himself.