HELP!!! Forced to apply ED!

<p>My parents told me today that I have to apply EDII to NYU Stern. The thing is, NYU isn't my top choice: The schools I would really want to get into the most are Duke, UCLA, UCB, UVA, with NYU as my 5th choice. My parents think that applying ED will significantly increase my chances of admission, and that I'm "wasting" an opportunity to get into a good school if I don't apply ED. They tell me that it doesn't matter where I go, as long as the school is good, so in their eyes ED is the best strategy to optimize chances of getting into a good school. </p>

<p>Since my school is a feeder for NYU, I'm guessing that I have a pretty decent chance of getting accepted despite my low GPA. I'm hoping that I'll get an acceptance (although unlikely) out of Duke, UCLA, UCB, or UVA, but that won't happen if I apply EDII! Don't get me wrong though, I'd probably enjoy NYU and get good opportunities to pursue my interests after college. But I just have other schools that I'm more interested in. Can you parents please give me some advice on how to deal with this? </p>

<p>BTW, no other school I'm applying to has EDII. Also, purposely getting rejected by botching an essay is not an option :P</p>

<p>Please do not apply ED if it is not your first choice. Getting a better chance to get admitted is not a good reason to apply ED. You might end up regretting it.</p>

<p>I agree with Christian2, don't apply ED if it's not your first choice because you could and up being in a binding agreement to go there when you really want to go somewhere else.
* West Coasts schools are way better, and students from NYU end up with more debt on average.</p>

<p>If you truly do have a "low gpa", I hope you are also applying to some safety schools.</p>

<p>I've already been accepted to my safety so that's not a problem</p>

<p>Only you understand your family dynamics. Is it possible for you to persuade your parents to drop this requirement? That would be the best option.</p>

<p>If it is not possible, then you have two choices: (1) obey them and go to NYU if accepted ED II, (2) make sure you are not accepted at NYU. Evidently, you cannot do the latter through a bad essay (presumably your parents read your essays), but you could contact the admissions office before submitting the ED II application and ask if there's some other way to do it that your parents could not detect.</p>

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Since my school is a feeder for NYU, I'm guessing that I have a pretty decent chance of getting accepted despite my low GPA.

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<p>Not,with more than 10 undergrad schools that are part of NYU, no high school n the country is a "feeder" school to NYU. It just means that you have more of a self-selecting population from your NJ school applying to NYU. Your school sending 20 students a year from a freshman class of 5,454 does not make it a feeder.</p>

<p>I do not think that it is right for your parents to force you into applying to NYU especially if it is not your first choice. However, because your list is kind of top heavy, especially for the UCs/UVA where you are an OOS with gpa (3.4 2250), perhaps they believe that NYU may be your best bet for admissions and want you to have whatever bump comes up with EDII. If you are admitted EDII is NYU a financially feasible option for your family?</p>

<p>Again, I do not agree with it, I think that it is wrong, but perhaps your parents are showing their support the best way they know. I think that in their mind, forcing you to apply EDII will increase your chances of being admitted to a school on your list and not being shut out (which is a strong possibility). If your safety was the only school that you were admitted to, would you be happy to attend? If yes, then explain this to them and let them know that you are willing to take the gamble and you want to apply RD.</p>

<p>If you will not be perfectly content attending the safety, then what you need to do is expand your list. Find some match schools so that they can see that you are not placing all of your eggs in one basket and that you have some other very good and viable options.</p>

<p>I saw your stats in another thread and most kids, nerdy or not, would love to have those. Since your school like has an excellent reputation with the Ivies and NYU, you will also have a nudge there as well. Your parents are in a panic ... they want you to go to a good school and will do anything to ensure that, but your stats and your HS profile may already be doing enough for you. If your parents are like a few other parents that I know, they are scheming in their minds constantly about how to ensure your success in life and getting into a good school is the ticket in their mind. All the schools on your list are amazing. The reality is that with your brains and stats, you will likely be successful at any school ... stay away from drugs, video games, and a few other bad things and you will do fine. Your parents don't realize this because they are in a panic.</p>

<p>In the end, if you have to fold and apply EDII to NYU, and you get in, it is an amazing school and you will meet very interesting and influential people there. You may not get in, even with those stats, but if you do, it is a good school by any reasonable person's standards. Good luck with you parents.</p>

<p>Could this paragraph from NYU's site sway them: --------</p>

<p>Many students want to know if it is “easier” to be admitted through our Early Decision process. The reality is that no, it is not “easier” to be admitted Early Decision, as the quantifiable criteria we use to evaluate candidates for admission – GPA and class rank (if available), test scores, etc. – is the same during both the Early and Regular Decision processes. Students who are offered admission during the Early Decision round will have remarkably similar credentials as those offered admission during the Regular Decision round and vice versa</p>

<p>If you look at NYU's common data set, there is not an appreciable difference between the RD admit rate of ~38% and the ED admit rate of ~39%</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nyu.edu/ir/pdf/cds/cds0910.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nyu.edu/ir/pdf/cds/cds0910.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Go to your high school guidance counselor and ask what he/she thinks--make sure you bring along the info from posts 9 and 10. If the counselor agrees that it won't be a big advantage to apply ED II, as the counselor to discuss it with your parents.</p>

<p>I say don't do it. Your parents mean well, and they really want what's best for you, but they shouldn't force you to apply ED to a school that's not at the top of your list.</p>

<p>Can your parents afford to pay full freight for NYU? They are not known for generous aid, and students come out with $100K in debt.</p>

<p>Don't do it bro'!</p>

<p>I must tell you, I've supported 3 kids in this process and I've never seen the benefit of applying ED. There are so many great schools out there to choose from. Assuming funds are not a problem, your stats are good, GPA a little low, but if you show commitment in your ec's you will have options. You are still young and evolving as a person. Take your time and research your potential options and show your parents you are informed and they will most likely support your choices. It is your first step in taking ownership of your life! Good luck.</p>

<p>I wonder if you will be coming back to this board once all your acceptances have been received, trying in earnest to find a way to get out of an ED acceptance and commitment to NYU?</p>

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I wonder if you will be coming back to this board once all your acceptances have been received, trying in earnest to find a way to get out of an ED acceptance and commitment to NYU?

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<p>This should not happen because a student who is accepted ED must withdraw all other applications and turn down any schools to which he/she has already been accepted. So there will never be a time when "all your acceptances have been received."</p>

<p>EDII deadline is January 1. Did OP apply EA to any of the other schools? I don't know what their application deadlines or notification dates are, but would be good to hear from the OP that they aren't trying to do this.</p>

<p>Op has stated that he has heard from his safety. If Op is applying RD to the rest of his schools, he will not hear from then until late march early april. As Marion stated, if admitted to NYU EDII, it would not matter where else he was accepted, he has to withdraw the applications to all other schools. Remember that the concept of ED is that in exchange for an early decision, if accepted, you are committing attend the school.</p>

<p>Well, maybe he won't hear from them until late March or early April, unless he is being considered for a special honor/award/scholarship/etc. Then he might hear earlier, which would be an indication that he would get an acceptance. </p>

<p>I know the concept of ED, but every year I read stories of kids trying to weasel out of it.</p>