Help me find some match-schools? (int'l, avr. GPA, high SATs, interesting ECs)

<p>Hey,</p>

<p>My grades for freshman and sophomore year were quite good. I wasn’t top of my class but they were still good grades. Mostly As and Bs. Our country’s educational system is modeled under the English one, and as such, I did A-Levels, and before that, GCSEs. When junior year started, my grades dropped. By American standards (different grading system), it was mostly Cs and Ds, with the odd A or B creeping in. But in my last exams (I <em>retook</em> my A-Levels), I’ve done better than the last time. I don’t even have an excuse for that. I just didn’t find the work I was doing at school interesting at all. I thought things would get harder but they only got more tedious and it was hard to stay focused. I was depressed for quite a long time (2-3 years) but again, I don’t think this is a valid excuse. There are so many students, who in spite of their difficult situations, are still able to bring home good grades. In any case, I just didn’t find the work interesting at all, so I just learned other things on my own and spent my time reading, writing, exploring new music and films. While we don’t calculate GPAs here, a rough estimate of what it’d be is probably around 3.2/4.0.</p>

<p>Having said that, I’m working hard for the SATs and I am confident that I can score well (>700 on every section) there. I also have a very good relationship with the teachers I’ve chosen to write my recommendation letters and I know that they will be able to write me good letters. </p>

<p>In terms of ECs, I’ve done the usual stuff. Ranging from a drama and basketball at school, to MUN and debate. Nothing too interesting in that regard. But then I also teach ESOL (set up a “center”) to children who live right down the street I live in and I’m also interning at an NGO (education related), where I teach children, do some “admin work” and am developing a guide that will be used by other teachers there to teach children in various centers. </p>

<p>I’m also a pretty good writer and while I haven’t written a novel or anything, I write stuff every now and then. I’d say that I have material that’s good enough to be worthy of an “art supplement”. I would like to major in applied math or physics and also take various courses in history, economics, politics, philosophy and literature. In that regard, a liberal arts college like Reed or St. Olaf would definitely be a good fit. But I don’t know whether I’m shooting too high or if I’d actually have a shot there. If it weren’t for my bad grades, I think I could get in but obviously, they are pretty average and that completely limits my options, because I need lots of financial aid. (one of my parents is 60+ and the other is nearing 60)</p>

<p>Again, I should point that if I could do it again, I’d suck it up and put more effort. I don’t mean to brag but I never had to work hard to get good grades and with minimal effort, I knew I could “survive”, as far as grades go. In fact, scrap that part where I said the word “brag” - I’m a ashamed about what I did. Or in this case, what I didn’t do. But hey, that’s water under the bridge and I’m not a big fan of regret. Instead, I find that spending my energy and time to make the future more comfortable, for everybody else and I, is a better alternative to whining. </p>

<p>Which colleges would you suggest I look at, bearing in mind that in spite of my low grades, other parts of my application are solid? By “solid”, I don’t mean “Ivy-material”. Just “solid”!</p>

<p>I’d appreciate any help that could be provided to me. I’m also on a gap year, so I have some time on my hands. I really wouldn’t mind taking some time off of learning history and math, if it meant I could have a better shot at getting into a college in the US!</p>

<p>The combination of being an international student with high financial need and Cs & Ds on your record could make you a very long shot for schools like Reed or St. Olaf. Unfortunately, less selective private colleges tend to have less aid available. State universities typically don’t offer aid to international students at all. </p>

<p>If you can’t show you can cover your costs, you can’t get a visa to study in this country. So you need a back-up plan. However, if you do very well on your tests, and if you can put together a good application (including strong essays and letters of recommendation), you might have a shot at a few schools on the following page:
[Top</a> 25 Financial Aid Colleges in US for International Students (Need-aware) - Desperate Guide: Undergraduate College Financial Aid, Scholarship](<a href=“http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-25-financial-aid-colleges-in-us-for-international-students-need-aware]Top”>http://www.desperateguide.com/us/top-25-financial-aid-colleges-in-us-for-international-students-need-aware)</p>

<p>(Dickinson, Hampshire, Skidmore, and Union are about the least selective schools on that list … but might still be tough with your grades).</p>

<p>If you’re interested in an international flavor, check out Earlham - we have ~200 international students from 77 countries (quite a lot for a college with 1200 students). Macalester is roughly as diverse as we are, but is harder to get into.</p>

<p>Thank you tk21769 and ECAS!</p>

<p>Yeah, I can appreciate that few places would want/take a chance with somebody who got low-ish grades. In that regard, would acing a course from Coursera (from top universities like Michigan, CalTech, Princeton, etc) be of any help at all?</p>

<p>I’ve heard of those colleges before and will definitely consider applying to them. If one’s SAT scores are above the 75 percentile of a given school (bearing in mind that their grades may be in their 25% percentile or below), can consider the school one that they have a somewhat more realistic shot at getting in? </p>

<p>Is it reasonable to assume that most LACs would welcome an applicant that writes well? Are there any that have any preference for such people? I’ve heard of Sarah Lawrence but one wouldn’t be able to get an applied math or physics degree there. </p>

<p>Would Kenyon be an unrealistic option as well? Their “humane studies” program looks appealing. (according to CollegeBoard’s data, I could have a shot if I were domestic) What about Bard?</p>

<p>Kenyon and Bard seem to be a little less selective than Reed, and a little more so than St. Olaf, but all are approximately in the same ballpark (92-98 on the P’tonReview selectivity scale). The average HS GPA for entering Kenyon students was 3.8, according to USNWR, with a median range (25th-75th percentile) of 3.5-4.0.</p>

<p>So your grades would be below their 25th percentile mark. If your scores are above the 75th percentile mark, your essays are excellent, and you aren’t competing against stronger applicants from your country, then you might have a shot at some of these schools. Of course, the only way to find out for sure is to apply.</p>

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As far as competing with people from my country goes…there’s two extremes. There’s those people who can afford any college in the States. They probably shoot for the top 10 and if they don’t get in, they go to a good State U. Some of those have gone to ivies and top LACs. I don’t know them personally but I know they exist. Then there’s people who apply to the very top schools and get in. Those LACs that range from the top 20 to top 60 have probably received very, very few (if any at all) applications from here.</p>

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<p>Ucb, Morris would be way out of range. The only school that doesn’t offer fin. aid to international students that I could potentially attend is UA-Huntsville. And that’s 'cause of their full ride scholarship. (3.0 GPA; 1490/1600 SAT)</p>

<p>I guess what I’m looking for is a bunch of LACs I could have better chances of getting in (i.e, not Swarthmore and Williams). I think 12 colleges is a good number if I focus on those somewhat less selective colleges. I know it’s gonna be a big leap but I <em>need</em> to give this a shot. One thing I’ve noticed that there are some other international students (on CC) who’ve done this and it seems to have worked out for a lot of them. They knew where they stood and instead of sending an app to HYP, they used that money and sent it to 3 LACs in the top 60. That’s what I gotta do.</p>

<p>I stayed up late last night looking for places to apply to but it’s hard to get a sense of what the colleges are like and what kind of students they attract. I don’t need Reed-eccentric, but that’d be nice. So yeah, a lot of what I do is look at course listings (for example, the bio/chem integrated sequence at St. Olaf looks great), look at student life and watch videos on YouTube. St. Olaf’s welcome video is a little off-putting (in a very funny way) but I guess they meant well. </p>

<p>And if I can scrape some more money, then I’d possibly add in 2 or 3 high-reaches but as I said, I’m not too fussed. Most American colleges could provide me with a top notch education. What I do there is more important. :-)</p>

<p>Leaving your grades aside, what were your exam results on the O and A levels?</p>