<p>With Cascade, we were using their top, platinum grade and still having the problems. We don’t plan to buy new glasses until we resolve this, or H has vowed to hand wash all glassware></p>
<p>I have a Bosch. No problem with clouding/filming. I use Finish powder and in the liquid reservoir just Jet Dry. </p>
<p>So here is what I have found googling around. To get the film off the glasses use glass cook top cleaner. Spray it inside and outside the glass and let it dry. Then buff them clean. </p>
<p>Go buy the quantum finish and do the dishes with them for awhile. After a few loads try a a glass again.</p>
<p>What’s a water softener cost?..last resort.</p>
<p>What a pain in the neck.</p>
<p>Jet Dry! Yep, that is what I use also. I use it all the time. And keep,that reservoir pretty full! No clouding.</p>
<p>I have tried everything with mine. The only solution I have found that actually works contains just two steps:</p>
<p>1) Gently place old glasses in recycling bin</p>
<p>2) Go to IKEA for new ones</p>
<p>Try to soak your glasses in white vinegar and wash them. If they become clear, try the following:</p>
<p>Prevent filming of glasses in the future.
Be certain that your water temperature is 140 degrees F (60 degrees C). Lower temperatures can lead to dish film formation, but higher temperatures can cause etching on glasses.
Try using more detergent. You can fill both of the detergent dispensers, but do not add more than that.
Use a rinse additive. Follow the instructions on the additives package.
Pre-rinse dishes that have been exposed to high-protein foods like meat, eggs and milk.</p>
<p>Aren’t Bosch DWs supposed to have an internal temperature sensor and a water heating element and/or cycle time readjustment program to handle water colder than specified?</p>
<p>I would assume that the old glasses aren’t fixable since your DH soaked them over night and they didn’t clear up.
I would buy a couple cheap new glasses and wash them with your current detergent. See if they become cloudy. If they do soak them with vinegar and see if they become clear or are etched and then repeat with a different detergent until you find one that works for your water. I know it sounds like a pain but it’s better than buying a bunch of glasses and having them ruined.</p>
<p>We had this problem with our glasses with a different brand of detergent, Seventh Generation. It is very common with new detergents and even mildly hard water. We switched detergents back to Cascade and our glasses, two months later, are clear again. Whatever that cloudy film is made of is super durable and did not start to clear up for weeks.</p>
<p>I had this problem. Finish powder (not tabs) seems to work best, and we also poured some white vinegar in the bottom of the washer AND filled a cup on the top rack with it too. Also, the tech told us not to use too much detergent. Don’t fill the cup or follow the directions on the box; use about 1/2 that much (up to a tablespoon or so).</p>
<p>We may just move away from having glassware. It seems plastics and stoneware, stainless and other items are OK in the dishwasher. IF we opt for nice glassware, H vows he will handwash. It looks dirty when it has the film.</p>
<p>We are currently using the Cascade Ultra packets, which are the top of the line and using the amount that Cascade pre-packages, complete with a finishing agent. It is SUPPOSED to prevent this problem. <sigh> Sad that there isn’t a sure or easy answer but really appreciate everyone’s insights and will let you know if we have any success. </sigh></p>
<p>We may wash some of our glass jars and see how they do before we decide to put any new glassware purchases in the dishwasher. That sees like a safe way to experiment and we have quite a few lying around.</p>
<p>Excellent idea to try some glass bottles in your dishwasher.
Are you using Jet Dry in addition to the Cascase Ultra packets? Going forward, I would suggest that you try this combination (I may have missed it, but I didn’t see you mention using Jet Dry). I think that the packets you are using have some Jet Dry in them, but the additional Jet Dry may help.</p>
<p>In my old dishwasher, I didn’t need to add Jet Dry if I used these deterget packets but with my new Bosch (2 weeks old), I find that I need to use both. My first couple of loads didn’t come out so great when I only used the detergent packet and not any additional Jet Dry.</p>
<p>Yes, we do use an entire bottle of Jet Dry in the dispenser. It is really sad that this dishwasher doesn’t do as good a job as the junky White we had previously purchased from Costco. We had such high hopes for this one!</p>
<p>Himom. The Bosch allows you to set how much jet dry is used per cycle. It might need to be readjusted. Look at your manual.</p>
<p>I do have a few wine glasses that started getting a film but it wasn’t all my glasses. I wonder if it is something about certain glass?</p>
<p>“I do have a few wine glasses that started getting a film but it wasn’t all my glasses. I wonder if it is something about certain glass?”</p>
<p>There you go:
<a href=“http://www.glasstrend.nl/get_doc.php?uid=1026”>http://www.glasstrend.nl/get_doc.php?uid=1026</a></p>
<p>Composition of glass and treatment of the finished product’s surface seem to play a role here. </p>
<p>Wow, Bunsen . 11 minutes. You are the google KIng! ^:)^ </p>
<p>So glass compostion does matter.</p>
<p>Hooray for Bunsen!!! </p>
<p>I actually looked at a few articles before posting this link. 
Bored to the bones doing some really boring work… It was a nice distraction, and it is chemistry related! B-) </p>
<p>Wow–so much we never knew! I guess it does matter–the quality of our glassware as well as the exposure to hear and other things that affect the glassware. Good to know–fascinating article!</p>
<p>Also, this treatise on dishwasher detergents could be helpful:</p>
<p><a href=“The Clean Dishes Challenge: Battle of the Dishwasher Detergents - Jill Cataldo”>http://www.jillcataldo.com/phosphatedetergents</a></p>
<p>:)</p>