<p>The cure consisted of three weeks of Snickers bars. ;)</p>
<p>Ooh, mini-- you bad. Did you see that a bunch of people are complaining about several of the Superbowl ads (including the snickers bar ad) and demanding apologies for insensitivity. Does this sound familiar…???</p>
<p>okay, I didn’t like the commercials because being a man consisted of beating up someone who kissed you or drinking poison…gee…what could POSSIBLY be wrong with say hey, if a guy makes a pass, you can beat the tar out of him…I don’t know, gay bashing, I just see it as not funny, but maybe that is me</p>
<p>And I am NOT talking about Haggard because he is gay, its because his words HURT gays…</p>
<p>I only saw the Superbowl ad, not the ones which I hear were more objectionable. I LOVED the ad, precisely because it made fun of HETEROSEXUAL males who felt they had to prove their manliness by pulling out their chest hair. I will admit I would have preferred if the ad had finished with a big hug.</p>
<p>The ad writers, however, never seemed to consider the possibility that there are gay automechanics.</p>
<p>Huh?? Which commercial had someone beating someone up (or drinking poison) for kissing him? Not the snickers commercial. Granted, the commercial was stupid, but all they did was rip out their (own) chest hair to assert their “manliness” after they accidentally kissed.</p>
<p>Dot–If Haggard is bisexual, as you seem to be suggesting, perhaps we’ll be treated to another headline in a few weeks:</p>
<p>Haggard Cured of Heterosexuality</p>
<p>It could happen both ways, right? Ah, the power of prayer.
;)</p>
<p>It is my understanding that there are various endings to the Snickers commercial, and more than one version was aired.</p>
<p>I also saw the first one, and I thought the point of it was to make fun of homophobic type men, too, (I mean, they look pretty dumb ripping out their chest hair) so I was surprised to see others had seen it differently.</p>
<p>Haggard not only is a HUGE hypocritical liar, but he was a major force in organizing the public to vote into office the HUGE bunch of hypocritical liars that is the Bush administration and was the GOP Congress. It is people like him that turned Americans against each other - divide and conquer at its best. It’s all about power and money for them. It goes WAY beyond one slimy individual telling a lie. Clearly, most Americans are disillusioned at this point - but look at what it cost us, and continues to cost us.</p>
<p>(Although I was wondering how many posts it would take, uhhh, “Dorothy,” aka…oh never mind 
, to get Clinton in the conversation. Too funny.)</p>
<p>“edit: Opie, if, for instance, HH would have used the same analogy to make her case: a pass?”</p>
<p>I would challenge the use of prayer as a cure for this even from HH. I call it the ollie ollie oxen free approach. Ted lied to everyone, including himself, whom he continues to lie to.</p>
<p>“and, get your mind out of the gutter…my underthings are none of your business, sir.”</p>
<p>:) Ahh you sound sooo familiar. 
How do you know my mind is in the gutter? Maybe I could sense your discomfort and was concerned about your well being? Let’s pray about it.</p>
<p>
…I suppose you might have had great success with this boorish line elsewhere and thought you’d give it another go here…or perhaps not. </p>
<p>…well, you go get ‘em slugger, don’t wanna jinx your success…</p>
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And perhaps you would, my dear Farinelli; but I doubt you would allow those not actually singing in the castrati choir* to draw an analogy between criminal child molesters and romantic homosexuals—because certainly, you have your high-pitched principals, sir. </p>
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<p>*note: all analogies intended to evoke a particularly chichi philosophical position and no more: Lest there be some thought of a flanking maneuver by the choristers.</p>
<p>I LOVE how one can invoke God and that is the end and justification for hate, but whatever</p>
<p>Hate is okay so long as the bible says so</p>
<p>To me Haggard strayed and his wife dealt with it, find and dandy</p>
<p>HOWEVER, his VERY public personna, his leadership with others that dislike gays, his saying God cured him, does damage</p>
<p>Consider a bigot, a run of the mill bigot…what he says in his own home, who cares, HOWEVER, when he takes that bigotry into the public arena, trying to change public policy, in hiring, using whatever stage he is on to propegate that hate, well, its not so private anymore</p>
<p>THAT is the difference</p>
<p>But some just can’t see the difference</p>
<p>CGM,</p>
<p>I find the man’s hypocrisy and politics largely reprehensible, if mundane and common. I have no idea who you are addressing your post to, but it cannot possibly be moi.</p>
<p>…"I suppose you might have had great success with this boorish line elsewhere and thought you’d give it another go here…or perhaps not. </p>
<p>…well, you go get ‘em slugger, don’t wanna jinx your success…"</p>
<p>Aw, I do know you from before… Or you have a double somewhere in this world who posted here before. Boorish line? Boorish line? K. I will always enjoy you and your real nicely worded f o’s. It’s a pleasure to be in such fine company to receive your “nice” putdowns. </p>
<p>"you have your high-pitched principals, sir. "</p>
<p>He receives her backhand and volleys it across court …</p>
<p>Nice that you could rejoin the fray.</p>
<p>I find the thinly veiled, o so chichi philosophical musings more than faintly reminiscent of someone else…can’t quite put my finger on it.</p>
<p>…you’re no doubt thinking of <em>Allmusic</em>, mommusic.
The similarity is breath-taking.</p>
<p>No, I don’t think so. This was someone whom we haven’t seen in a while.</p>
<p>In any case, this is another thread that has descended into tiresome and pointless ad hominem arguments. Sometimes people argue like…children.</p>
<p>It’s all a matter of perspective:</p>
<p>I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven</p>
<p>You see, Pastor Haggard behaved like a jaded adult, not a child:
no soup for you, eh weenie.</p>
<p>And accomadations in heaven just got more complicated, as well.</p>
<p>Dot–I think He meant childLIKE, not childISH. :)</p>
<p>I think you will need to work out these details yourself, Xmusic.
I do, however, wish you Godspeed in your excellent endeavors, and this: </p>
<p>May you and your fellow castrati-choristers some day meet such a tenor, or at least an alto to serenade you before–loosing such breath as a-caroling requires–you finally hear their mulitphonal symphony in all its glory (even baritone, bass and contra-bass!) in the end, when flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. </p>
<p>Adieu.</p>