Hidden Gem Programs

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<p>During our research of particular colleges, you come across a “hidden gem program” which may go totally unnoticed unless it pertains to your field of study. Sometimes the program may be at a school that you would not normally consider, but it could be exactly the program that is right for you. So I thought it might be helpful to share our “Hidden Gems”</p>

<p>SUNY Cortland has a 5 year combo- BA/Cortland & MA/Duke University in Environmental Science. Though my kid is going to Cortland as a Sports Management major, she won’t be taking advantage of this opportunity to get a Masters Degree from Duke, but for the right kid intersted in environmental science I think this is a program to look into.</p>

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<p>I haven’t seen much discussion about combos like thes on CC, but what great opportunities. Do colleges still have a 3/2 combo for Engineering?</p>

<p>At another level (law school), my older son was accepted to a combo JD/MBA program.</p>

<p>Anyway, the SUNY/Duke program looks like a real gem.</p>

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<p>Great thread idea!</p>

<p>Yes, digmedia, several liberal arts colleges do offer 3/2 engineering options. </p>

<p>Juniata, Elon, Holy Cross, Berea, Marietta, Pepperdine, Occidential, Ithaca, Dickinson, Wells, Oberlin and several other schools are among those that came up when I did a search.</p>

<p>However, I don’t know if you were interested in those 3/2 programs that lead to a master’s degree. Many programs lead to an undergrad degree from the first school in a liberal arts major, and a bachelor’s in engineering from the second school.</p>

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<p>From the OUHTC website (<a href=“http://ouhtc.org):%5B/url%5D”>http://ouhtc.org):</a></p>

<p>The Honors Tutorial College offers 26 challenging programs of study that provide a unique undergraduate educational experience to a select number of qualified students.</p>

<p>Students admitted to the College undertake a substantial portion of the core curriculum in their respective disciplines through a series of tutorials. A tutorial consists of a full-time faculty member meeting with students either singly or in small seminars. In pursuing this method of instruction the College draws upon the rich educational traditions of British universities such as Cambridge and Oxford. Although other colleges and universities have adopted some aspects of the tutorial model, Ohio University remains the only institution in the United States with a degree-granting college incorporating all the essential features of a tutorial-based education. </p>

<p>Through flexibility, mentoring, and abundant academic resources, the Honors Tutorial College aims to give high-ability students every opportunity to further their intellectual development. College requirements are kept to a minimum in order to allow students to explore a range of disciplines, engage in substantial creative and/or research work, acquire a high degree of proficiency in a particular subject matter, and participate in meaningful extracurricular activities. </p>

<p>Tutorials allow individuals to work closely with accomplished scholars who take particular pride in helping Honors Tutorial College students fulfill their current and future ambitions. This special combination of freedom and guidance, which is one of the hallmarks of the College, is enhanced by the number of exclusive academic resources made available to its students. These include priority registration, special residence hall availability, enhanced library privileges, research support, eligibility to undertake graduate work, unique education abroad opportunities, and scholarship availability.</p>

<p>A tutorial-based curriculum requires highly developed academic abilities, but it also necessitates motivation, maturity, focus, energy, and a combination of self-confidence and humility. To succeed in the Honors Tutorial College, a student must recognize that she or he bears the responsibility for understanding each week’s tutorial material. All tutorials are dialogues - exchanges of thoughts, questions, and possibilities - not lectures. There are no back row seats in a tutorial. At every tutorial, students are called upon to participate in an intellectual exchange in which quality is measured by thoughtful mastery of the subject under consideration.</p>

<p>In addition to being comfortable with the expectations of the tutorial mode of instruction, students must also consider other characteristics of the College. These include participation of all Honors Tutorial College freshmen in a seminar held in fall quarter and an expectation that membership in the College brings with it community service obligations. The seminar and community service work play a critical role in establishing camaraderie between students and maintaining a vibrant, active community of young scholars</p>

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<p>One I stumbled across when researching for a sciencey friend of my D’s: Wesleyan offers science majors in certain departments a fifth year tuition free to get their masters degree.</p>

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<p>Lehigh gives 5th year free if you have a gpa of 3.75 or up, and also has integrated business and engineering. (which not too many people seem to talk about.)</p>

<p>Emory has a 3/2 engineering program with Georgia Tech. (Ba/Bs + MS)</p>

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<p>I believe that Clark also offers a free fifth year if you have a gpa of 3.25 in aggregate in your soph and junior year, and 3.25 senior year and have attended Clark for all a4 years. You can even qualify for 50% off the fifth year if you are a transfer student. The fifth year will lead to a master’s degree.</p>

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<p>clark university offers a fifth year free for students who maintain a 3.25</p>

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<p>University of Rochester offers a fifth year tuition free if you qualify on the basis of GPA and you have a specific academic plan in mind for the use of that fifth year.</p>

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<p>I copied and pasted from Clark’s website in case there is any confusion:</p>

<p>Graduate Admissions
Admissions Home Apply Financial Aid Accelerated Degree </p>

<p>Accelerated Degree Application Process Eligibilty Requirements FAQs Policies<br>
Eligibility Requirements for Tuition Scholarship
Applicants to the Accelerated BA/Master’s Degree Program who meet certain eligibility requirements can receive a tuition scholarship during their fifth year. </p>

<p>Printable Format Incoming First-Year Students</p>

<p>To qualify for a full (100%) tuition scholarship, Clark students must:</p>

<p>be a full-time undergraduate student for four years (eight semesters) at Clark;
meet the entry requirements of the chosen graduate program;
achieve a 3.25 GPA for the second and third years of study in aggregate;
apply to the program by April 1st of the junior year;
achieve a 3.25 GPA for the fourth year of study;
formally apply by the program deadline and be accepted by the graduate program indicated on the Accelerated BA/Master’s Degree Program Application Form: Part 1 submitted by April 1 of the junior year (or November 1, 2005 if the second semester of the junior year is in the fall semester);
complete the BA degree within five years of initial entry to Clark University. </p>

<p>Incoming Transfer Students</p>

<p>Incoming undergraduate transfer students to Clark will be eligible for a 50% tuition scholarship during their fifth year under the following conditions:</p>

<p>be a full-time student for at least one full academic year prior to admission at the end of the junior year;
obtain a GPA of at least 3.25 for courses taken at Clark University
maintain a GPA of at least 3.25 during the senior year;
formally apply by the program deadline and be accepted by the graduate program indicated on the Application to the Accelerated BA/Master’s Degree Program: Part 1 submitted by April 1 of the junior year (or November 1, 2005 if the second semester of the junior year is in the fall semester);
meet the entry requirements of the chosen graduate program</p>

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<p>I looked into a few of these a couple years ago. In those particular programs, the applicant was actually NOT automatically admitted up front to the future engineering college. They had to apply to the engineering school just prior to the anticipated engineering leg, and be accepted, just like a transfer student. Admission to the engineering college was in no way assured. There were even minimum GPA standards at the LAC to even apply for the second leg.</p>

<p>Under such a program the prospective student would have zero exposure to engineering during the first three years, and then have to cram a whole engineering program into two years which is insufficient.Especially given no previous guidance. </p>

<p>I believe that such a “program” is a bad idea for anyone seriously considering an engineering career, and probably very few people complete it. I think it’s mostly a marketing ploy for colleges to maintain they’ve got engineering “covered” in some fashion whereas in reality they have nothing. The best path for many will be to make a choice as early as possible, one way or the other, then commit to that route. IMO.</p>

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<p>concerning ‘hidden jems’- how about a program on diamond cutting, diamond industry, etc?</p>

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<p>Wow- I had never heard of the 5th year free programs. So a master’s degree can come tuition-free… Amazing what CC parents can uncover.</p>

<p>Mods- this discussion might be a good candidate for a sticky thread.</p>

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<p>How about University of Richmond’s Honors Law Admission Program?
<a href=“Undergraduate Admission - University of Richmond”>Undergraduate Admission - University of Richmond;

<p>From the website: “Prospective students with a combined SAT-I score of 1350 and above or an ACT composite of 30 and above are invited into the program. Students must be accepted for admission to the University of Richmond as an undergraduate… During the undergraduate years, the only stipulations to the program are that the student achieves a cumulative 3.5 grade point average by the end of the fall semester of the senior year and is of good moral character. If the student meets these requirements, admission to the University of Richmond School of Law is guaranteed. Honors law students don’t even have to take the LSAT!”</p>

<p>Not a bad deal.</p>

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<p>Washington & Lee - has a 3/2 program - Engineering</p>

<p><a href=“Physics and Engineering Department : Washington and Lee University”>Physics and Engineering Department : Washington and Lee University;

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<p>As I gave a plug for d # 2’s school-SUNY Cortland, I did not want to leave out d#1.<br>
Cornell has reduced tuition programs (around $18,000) if you are a NYS resident. The programs are in the schools of Industrial Labor Relations, College of Ag & Life Science, and Human Ecology. I just assume all NYS parents know this, but many do not.
I also just checked U of Rochester as it was already mentioned by Mol10e. Besides the 5th year tuition free (“Take 5 Scholars Program”- I do not think it was to obtain Masters, but to continue study to broaden academic interests), they have Ten 3-2 programs BA/Masters and the Kauffman Entrepreneurial Year (KEY). It is also a tuition free 5th year to study and practice Entrepreneurial skills.<br>
If you have been on cc awhile, you may remember I was always “pushing” University of Rochester. I think the entire school is a
“Hidden Gem”.</p>

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<p>My S#1 graduated from UofR. Great school, but it broke the bank on this end… :-(</p>

<p>When he applied to graduate after 7 semesters, they informed us that the degree required 8 semesters of tuition ( :eek: ) and that we’d have to pay for the semester AFTER he graduated! That was a while ago, so the policy may have changed. He did a 6-week program during the summer before his last semester and that was considered the “8th semester.”</p>

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<p>A number of places with graduate architecture schools will give undergrads who have taken their courses a year’s worth of credit. I was really tempted by Harvard’s offer, but wanted to go to New York city.</p>

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<p>Montana State has a accounting program where over 80% of the students pass the CPA exam. I think the national average is about 17%</p>

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<p>Could you please elaborate on the integrated busienss and engineering program by lehigh?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>