Very big merit. Another - where we’ve seen costs in the 20s with all the scholarships is Susquehanna U in PA.
Hartwick in upstate NY is $43K all in - with a $10K merit possibility.
You make $70K in Hawaii - which is not a lot sadly but I’m not sure - I’ve read different out of pocket spends - from nothing to $5500 to much more - so not sure where you need to be. It is a buyer’s market - schools are paying for kids - but into the 30s/40s, etc.
Correction: U of Idaho has 399 out of 9269 international or 4.3% per CDS. Per college factual, its biggest draws (after mostly Idaho) are Washington, California, Oregon and Alaska (with 22). It is not an international or OOS haven.
Yes, I ran the NPC. I am contributing more than the dad, so I am filling out FAFSA. I am spending more than I currently earn. FAFSA is filled out by the parent who contributes the most, and it’s me. I am paying for their school (there is still cost after the scholarship), large medical bills for my daughter and many other expenses and housing, cars, gas.
I did put my income and dad’s child support into FAFSA, I got SAI of 5500. Will redo it again in August.
I’m getting more confused. In one post, I think around Post 82 or so you said he got child support until he was 23. Then in around Post 106 you said he gets child support until he’s 18. Can you please clarify?
He get child support until 23 if he enrolled full time in college. If not, Child support stops at 18. It’s conditional on his college enrolment.
There are medical schools with free tuition but I’m not sure there are any FREE medical schools in the U.S…(free meaning tuition, fees, lodging, food, books, other expenses, etc).
@WayOutWestMom can correct me if I am wrong.
Does this include post undergrad studies? I would find that out.
Is it $3500/child or $3500/month for the children? $3500/month is $42,000/year. $21k/year per child is a much different college budget than $42k/year per child.
Unlike some others, I like U. of Idaho as an option for your son with respect to the fact that it’s an extremely likely admit and it will be affordable, given the fact that it will be a full-ride. If he would be happy to attend, that makes it a must-apply school in my book, as I think it’s best if a student has at least one safety and preferably more than one.
Some other possibilities that would be guaranteed to fall within budget (assuming your son becomes a National Merit Finalist) are:
U. of Maine: Full tuition scholarship for National Merit Semi-Finalists and Finalists (source). About 9600 undergrads and there are lots of winter outdoorsy options.
Virginia Commonwealth U.: Room & board plus in-state tuition (source). I would inquire about what options are available to cover the remainder of the tuition amount. About 21k undergrads and located in Richmond with lots of shadowing possibilities. Less than 2 hours from D.C. and from skiing.
Washington State U.: Full tuition scholarship for National Merit Semi-Finalists and Finalists (source). About 21k undergrads.
I know you’ve mentioned Russia or Europe as possibilities, but even they will not be “free” unless they also provide room and board for free. I would make sure that whichever locations these colleges are in would be able to have the living expenses and any other necessary costs fall within budget, as some places are much more expensive than others.
I know you’ve repeatedly mentioned avoiding liberal arts colleges because your son wants to do research. Does your family understand that there are many liberal arts colleges where he can do research? Or does the distaste for liberal arts colleges extend to some other reason?
Being a FAFSA school doesn’t mean it will be affordable. ALL schools are FAFSA schools, and you’ll always need to fill that out to get the Pell grant/SEOG money, perhaps some other funds from the school. But that doesn’t mean the school will come close to meeting your need.
My kids both went to FAFSA only schools. One was at a private school and got about 1/2 tuition from the school’s merit award, the other 1/2 from her athletic scholarship, and the amount she needed for room and board from all the other much smaller awards - Pell, SEOG, a Florida resident grant, Florida bright futures (merit), a couple of stackable grants from her school, etc. Other daughter went to a OOS flagship and got her Pell grant, a few other smaller awards, and had to take out some loans but the COA was much much lower than her sister’s school. The one at private school had almost her entire cost covered and the one at a public flagship (Wyoming) had about half her costs covered.
Wyoming is a WUE school but does it a little differently than other WUE schools as all OOS students are eligible for the Brown & Gold (WUE) scholarship and it isn’t always 150% of tuition but for a NMF it would be. Scholarships do stack; for example, all engineering majors get an additional scholarship, there are alum scholarships (mostly for certain majors), there are other scholarships available. If you also moved to Wyoming, your son would be eligible for instate tuition in one year which is practically free. Wyoming residents and grads get a preference for the Idaho medical college admissions.
It’s plenty cold in Laramie and there is skiing. However, it is sounding more and more like your children will be heading overseas for college.
There’s no assurance of course that one can get shadowing etc because the school is adjacent to a hospital. But VCU has VCU medical center.
Okay, please give liberal arts colleges a shot. And I’m going to mention this one again…Gustavus Adolphus. It has about 1900 undergrads and is just over an hour from Minneapolis. It popped back on my radar because it doesn’t require the CSS from U.S. residents, but I’m mentioning it again because it offers a full tuition to National Merit Finalists (source), leaving room, board, and fees costs of less than $13k (source).
Here’s more that has been written about the school here on the forum.
And I suspect that Gustavus Adolphus would be an extremely likely admit for your son. And there’s the Minneapolis College of Art & Design (MCAD) that could be of interest for your D, if she’s wanting to go to an art school.
Dartmouth also has skiing opportunities nearby.
UTD has a quieter, more studious/focused reputation than many of the state schools with NMF full ride scholarships. The weather is humid, but not as humid as Houston.
Unlike Hawaii, Texas does get colder in the winter, but the summers can be painful. Luckily, that’s not a time where you need to be on campus.
Thank you, I am looking into Dallas now. It does look like a very good college
Thank you very much for your suggesting, I am researching both school now. MCAD looks fantastic for my daughter, she would be very happy there.
Thank you so much for this information, I will research the colleges you mentioned
Thank you for reminding about Wyoming, I completely forgot that it’s also in WUE, since I’ve never heard of anyone going there
Yes, it does.
Yes, but we would hope that by the time he is in Med School he would be working part time, and he will still have Child Support
I am not sure whether the OP is asking about the main Temple campus in Philadelphia or about Temple Japan, but I’m going to assume she is asking about Temple Japan as a possibility for her daughter. Temple Japan does have an art major. Art | Undergraduate | Temple University, Japan Campus Although they refer to Temple Japan as the Japan campus because it is an integrated part of the University, they offer some different majors in Japan. I agree this might be an interesting choice for the daughter. Temple Japan moved a couple of years ago and is now situated on the campus of Showa Women’s University. It’s a nice campus in an interesting Tokyo neighborhood (Sangenjaya), and I see that there is a credit exchange program with Showa. It looks like Temple has also opened a satellite campus in Kyoto, which would obviously be a plus for an art student.
Working part time while in medical school might not be realistic.
If I understand correctly, your son will be graduating college at the age of 20 (turning 21 the summer after graduation). This means that in order to attend medical school immediately after college, he has to apply during his junior year, when he is 19. This is younger than traditional applicants and students.
Despite your son’s life experience and maturity, applying to medical school as a 19 year old college junior will be not be viewed favorably, imo.
It seems that he has to go straight to medical school in order to keep his child support? What if this does not happen?