High achieving 15 year old Junior

UMN Rochester has exactly two scholarships available, and requires attending a special interview day, which probably wouldn’t be financially feasible, especially considering the odds.

Thank you for your comment! Yes, we would not be able to fly in for the interview. It does look like a fantastic school for someone who is hyper focused on medicine, like my son.

Might be worth asking the Admissions department whether they cover expenses in some cases.

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Tufts has a >10% international student body and is located in an excellent medical hub (Boston) while Emory is >15%. Emory attracts a lot of strong premedical students, and also provides merit aid to attract Ivy-caliber students (so the best students are outstanding). They have two campuses, and the smaller Oxford campus where some students spend their first two years before moving on to the larger campus has ample clinical/research opportunities: Reddit - Please wait for verification

You mentioned that he might be happier at a smaller school, so Emory might be a way to get a bit of the best of both worlds.

Do you know why exactly he’s not interested in Liberal Arts Colleges?

Thank you! We have to limit the number of CSS profile schools we are applying to, since it’s very hard to get any aid without the non-custodial parent’s CSS Profile. We will only be applying to a handful of CSS profile schools

Not sure how this will work with an un custodial parent and back child support but Emory has free tuition for families making under $200,000 a year. Emory Advantage Plus | Emory University | Atlanta GA

His dad will not fill out the CSS profile, he is not cooperating, that’s the issue. Emory will not give any aid without dad’s CSS Profile

Aren’t you able to reuse the same documents to apply to different universities? And wouldn’t the unpredictability of this aspect of the FA process be a reason to apply more widely in the hopes that at least one school gives a good offer?

It’s not as simple as documents-our school is calling each university and is talking to them directly. There are schools they have a relationship with-Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Tulane. Those are the schools they are reaching out to directly. They will also reach out to MIT, John Hopkins, Georgetown, Princeton and Yale-also have a relationship. I cant ask them to work with all T50 schools, it’s too much. It involves a lot more than filling out papers. Most colleges will not grant a waver, it’s very unlikely.

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There’s a waiver form. I would think the prospect of guaranteed free tuition would make it worth filling out. Emory would be excellent for premed. It’s a lovely area, Decatur, and would be a more affordable place to live for you. If you want to move down there, have him live with you, work remotely and commute.

Also, also agree with the suggestions that your son needs to be considering high merit or free state schools given your financial situation. It doesn’t matter where you go to medical school for the most part if your goal is to be a doctor in private practice. And medical schools don’t much care where you go to undergrad. Focus is on highest possible GPA and MCAT along with all the shadowing hours, etc..

We are already applying widely-20 EA and 20 RD. It’s already too much. We are including the schools that are most likely to give aid in EA and dont require the non-custodial CSS profile, like UNC and U of Chicago, and the WUE state schools.

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The dad pays child support, which disqualifies us from the waver. There is no argument that Emory is fantastic school, it is. But our school has no relationship with it. We are applying to Rice, which has a relationship with our school and gives merit aid.

UNC doesn’t give OOS aid nearly to the same extent it used to: UNC slashes financial aid funding for future out-of-state students - Daily Tar Heel

Which WUE schools have a total annual CoA within your EFC? My understanding is that the WUE discount generally does not stack with institutional merit scholarships, and the type of schools that participate do not give significant OOS financial aid, even to WUE students.

I did the UNC net cost calculator-it came down to $20K, which is doable with son’s child support, I guess I will have to redo it and contact the school, thank you!

Fo WUE, we are doing what the school recommended-U of Idaho, U of Utah, Oregon State. Most of the kids from our school go to there. According to the school, Honors Colleges have more scholarships.

I do not believe Tulane meets full financial need, and it’s a very southern, greek-heavy environment. If your school is reaching out to a limited number of schools, I would consider a substitution if possible.

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As of now, UNC still meets full need for all students including OOS students.

In the interest of education, you can check how much, on average, merit aid a school gives. Section H of each school’s common data set shows financial aid details. You will see for Rice that 55 first years without financial need received merit aid, at an average of 26.7K (H2A O). Rice direct COA is around $92K. If they grant the waiver, they will meet full need and merit aid is likely not needed (please do run their NPC.)

Correct, Tulane does not meet full need. So, even if they were to grant the NCP waiver, the FA offer may come up short. Run the NPC!!

I completely agree on you about Tulane, but our school has a very close relationship with them, and that’s our biggest chance for aid. We have to include it. They agreed to work on the CSS profile situation. My son is very much into music, plays instruments, writes his own music, so he’ll have that at least in New Orleans, there are a lot of musicians and live music. It’s also the highest chance of admission-lots of kids from our school go there. I have to look at where the kids from our school realistically go and get where they get money.

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You, as the parent, can also contact schools about these matters. You are fortunate that your child’s school is helping you with this. Many are not so fortunate as their high schools do not have the resources for this.

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I think we have the highest chances with the schools that have a personal relationship with our school, we are lucky because some of very good schools do-Stanford comes on campus and we have 3-5 kids every year admitted. Same with Yale, Princeton and Columbia. I do think I should rely on the school calling the universities where they are already well known.

Yes, we are very fortunate with the school-but it’s a selective school and it was also hard to get in and get scholarships, we are lucky the kids got in, yes. We are beyond happy. The school is helping us a lot.

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U of Idaho offers a full ride scholarship for natl. merit finalists, which is great.

U of Utah does not offer anything like that to oos students. Just $10k per year.

Oregon State’s biggest oos merit scholarship is $16k per year, which is less than WUE tuition (and that’s assuming it stacks with WUE)

I bet most of the kids from your school aren’t attending on a scholarship and can thus most likely afford to pay more than you, so you shouldn’t assume a school is affordable just because students from your school go there. This also goes for Tulane, which is need-aware, meaning they look to see how much a student can afford to pay before admitting them.

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