@kuriosmind I think that most schools receive a significantly smaller amount of EA/ED apps, so there are less applications for each admissions officer to read. Also, schools like Penn have a system where officers make first/second cuts in their region and bring a reduced pool to adcom.
@XoXdreamerXoX I think you should mention the cheating to your teacher - after all, it’s not like you’d be saying it to improve your own rank (b/c it’s too late now).
Cheating is really widespread in my school. During mock exams (so, yesterday) these kids looked up the 2015 exam mark-schemes online before mocks and their teacher found out about it. Also, during a Bio test this girl’s iPhone started reading the answer to a question she had googled OUT LOUD and the teacher didn’t do anything about it.
@QuirkyClarkie mark schemes?
@QuirkyClarkie That was my point. Admission officers have much more time to consider EA applicants than RD applicants due to the sheer number of RD applicants. You seem quite knowledgeable about Penn, do you know how the committee works? I mean, do they review each applicant once and decide yes or no? Or do they review the same applicants a couple times going back and forth?
@wonderlanddd Same. I also didn’t feel my application was ready in EA, but I applied anyways since I at least wanted the experience, and I think it helped me find areas of improvements for RD. I applied to a school that I was neutral about at the time, but after doing all the research, I ended up liking it a lot, which made the deferral hard to deal with 
@XoXdreamerXoX I doubt someone rejected from UT have much of a chance at Stanford or Rice. It’s unethical to cheat and unfair to other students, so don’t feel bad for alerting the teacher the next time she cheats on tests.
@Acusio Yeah, for IB exams they have “mark schemes” for the examiners which is essentially a guide to content that should be covered in our exam answers. Some people in my grade looked up the mark schemes for their exam - apparently they knew which past exam the teacher was going to give - so they essentially knew all the answers beforehand.
@kuriosmind I attribute my knowledge of Penn admissions to my great stalking skills. I’m not too sure about the final admissions committee. I think that, since applications that go to committee are “borderline applicants” they’ve already been reviewed twice, and the Adcom would review the applicant just once before making a final decision.
@QuirkyClarkie Is that really cheating though? For example, my math teacher sometimes gives previous AP questions on quizzes, and I wouldn’t consider looking over previous AP exams to study as cheating.
@Acusio I count it as cheating because teachers at our school will state if you are/aren’t allowed to look up practice exams online so there really isn’t any confusion surrounding it. I get your point, though - past exams are really helpful for studying and knowing what kinds of questions you’re up against. If you happen to come across questions that you’ve practiced with, then that’s good luck. But if you look up the answers to the questions because you know it’ll be on the test, IMO that’s cheating.
BTW sorry for all the long replies. I’m terrible at cutting things down and am starting to ramble because it’s getting late/early.
@Acusio @QuirkyClarkie I wouldn’t count looking up past exams (that are legally available online) as cheating. You use SAT/ACT prep books, don’t those include previous tests? For AP exams, college board posts the list of contents covered on the test as well as some samples from past tests. Even if they looked at previous tests, they still have to study the material (in fact more materials, since they have to study and take old practice tests). I guess my definition of cheating on tests is doing less/no work through unethical means to achieve high marks?
@kuriosmind She wasn’t rejected from UT–she was rejected from the engineering school.
UT automatically admits the top 7% of Texas high school students into the school, not into their major. Engineering and business are hardcore competitive to get into.
@XoXdreamerXoX I see. I’m not really familiar with the special programs at UT, I just assumed it wasn’t very selective since the school has a 40% acceptance rate. Rice and Stanford are so selective and deny so many qualified applicants that even someone with 2400 shouldn’t expect to be admitted. Either way, she would rather be taught the less that “cheating is bad” in high school than in college or in her workplace, but it’s up to you and the other students, since that’s who the cheating affects at this point.
@Acusio I’d guess they mean a sheet showing the correctly-filled bubbles (marks) for a multiple-choice test.
@OMPursuit I see.
@QuirkyClarkie Alright I feel ya, I guess its different if the teachers tell you not to look them up.
Here is where I stand with cheating… If I need to do it as a last option desperation attempt to get the next higher grade, then yes, I will “cheat.” If it is for something that is only worth 5 or 10 points, its not worth it since in IB, if you get caught cheating you can get kicked out. And of course, if the squad needs last night’s homework since they didn’t do it, I cant say no so I guess there is that. 
People cheat so much in my school it’s considered normal. They give out tests that received an A or B. Most kids use their phones in front of the teacher DURING TESTS, and don’t get in trouble!
I only have done it when I’m desperate.
I’m not sure if everyone got a message, but I was invited on CC to help underprivileged kids in Brazil learn about colleges. It sounds like fun!
Had to unbookmark several ivy league applicant threads because everyone getting LLs is stressing me out
It seems like everyone is getting them, but people keep saying that most accepted applicants never get them, so to clarify, how many people do get them?
It’s very rare for non-athletes. Someone on the Brown forum said that only about 5-10% of the admitted class recieves them. All the LLs are stressing me out too, but I try to remember that the vast majority of people won’t get one.
I have to keep reminding people that a large majority don’t get LLs.
But the more I see people freaking out, the more I freak out.
@wonderlanddd But I don’t think that includes recruited athletes who are supposed to receive LLs anyways, so I think around 20% of regular applicants receive them. Doesn’t 1 in 5 seem like a large number? :-?? Sorry if I’m freaking everybody out!
…I guess this is an upside to my school not allowing us to bring our phones,lol