High School Class of 2018

@Soccer1235 My dad is the same way. He’s been dropping not-so-subtle hints that he wants me to attend GMU, so he’ll have to pay a lot less and he’s an alumni. If I went to GMU, I’d be a commuter and not getting the full college experience I want. I’ve went along with it, because he’s the one who will be paying most of my tuition, but I feel like he’s going to try to push GMU down my throat every chance he gets until Decision Day. It’s understandable, as attending GMU as a commuter would allow me to pay the smallest amount for college and my dad would easily be able to pay for me to go to grad school. At this point, my father and I definitely want me to go to grad school and maybe even take summer classes while in college. However, I definitely don’t feel comfortable with him paying all of my tuition. I plan on getting a job on Saturdays during the semesters to help pay for it.

Back to your problem, your dad obviously isn’t required to pay your tuition. If he decides to not pay for you to go to a school that you choose, that is pretty far away, then you’ll likely have to find your own means to pay the tuition. Like getting a job, for example. Many college students get jobs because their parents either want them to pay for their own tuition as a way to teach them about hard work in the workplace and the value of money or simply because they don’t have the money to pay the tuition. If the latter is true, then there are always financial aid and scholarships available. I’ll give you a link to a college scholarship website I found. But I’d say that if you get accepted into Vanderbilt and your parents have the means to pay but don’t want to, try and get them to see how much it means. But you also need to realize their point of view. They’re probably thinking, “Why are we about to pay twice or three times as much in tuition for our son’s tuition when he can easily earn his degree from a school that has a much lower cost in tuition?” and you’re right for using the iPhone analogy as it is correct. Comparing colleges is a lot like comparing iPhones. If you had to choose between an iPhone 3C or iPhone 6S, you might ask yourself, “Don’t they do the same exact things?” the answer to which is yes and no. The two iPhone models have their similarities, but there is point where those similarities end. If you want to just be able to call and text people, then get the iPhone 3C, assuming the iPhone 3C is the cheapest one to buy. If you want features that the iPhone 3C doesn’t have, but the iPhone 6S does have, then buy the iPhone 6S.

This is a very similar situation with colleges. Take GMU (George Mason University) and Virginia Tech for example. GMU has a lower tuition than Virginia Tech, however, Engineering-Wise, VT is a lot better. We, as well as parents, have to remember that the reason why we go to college is to earn experience in our individual majors to be able to find jobs and using the concepts we’ve learned and apply them in the workforce. The college you go to could determine how much you learn and how prepared you are for the workforce. Back to the VT and GMU argument, while GMU is a lot more inexpensive, VT brings out the better engineers. You want to know why? Because VT gives the students more experience and also has better Engineering facilities than GMU. VT’s strength IS its Engineering program. Comparing the facilities that VT and GMU have, VT has an entire lab building (The Ware Lab) specifically for engineers, while GMU has a smaller laboratory building for Engineering. Also, VT spends a lot more money on their Engineering program alone than GMU. Both schools allow for Engineering internships. Overall, VT is really just the best place for a college Engineering major in Virginia. VT gives the students more experience for the Engineering workforce and better prepares them for what lies ahead. VT is known to make what are called “cookie cutter” engineers, meaning they do as they are told and are molded to be your typical average engineer. UVA is known to make what are called “theoretical” engineers, meaning they are made to think more in-depth about what they’re doing. Basically, UVA churns out philosophical engineers. Anyway, my point is tha most employers, if asked, would more likely choose a VT student over a GMU students because of VT’s reputation to churn out direction-following engineers who seem know what they’re doing.

My final point, if I had to choose between two schools, the choice would have to be made about what experience you’ll gain from the school versus the tuition of each school, which would be known as deciding factors. If one or the other is the deciding factor, then you should be okay when you’re picking a school. One last thing, if your parents still won’t pay for your tuition, it is okay. You’ll just have to pay your way through college. Yes, this will mean you’ll likely graduate with a TON of debt, but if the school is worth it, then go for it. Also, don’t be like that girl who sued her parents and forced them to pay for her tuition!

I’m really sorry this is so long! Also here’s the link I promised: http://collegeapps.about.com/od/grantsandscholarships/

@Hamlon Thanks for the info! When I looked up the admissions percentage online, it said 33%, but idk. I don’t know our income, but I’m pretty sure it’s between $40,000 and $60,000. And I’d really like to go to the Autumn Blast event, but I’m pretty sure my parents wouldn’t allow me to go, as it’s on a weekend during the school. Even if I didn’t have any homework that weekend, they’d still make me study. “School should be your first priority”, they always tell me. Maybe I’ll go on a summer tour next summer.

@DaEmmJay23 Meanwhile, I’m in the library working my summer away as if school hadn’t ended. :))

Do you guys think we should put our schedules on here once we get them? I’ll probably get mine around August 20th. I’ll be using Parent Portal and hopefully it will be a lot faster this time. I remember what happened last year and it was a Internet Traffic disaster. So many people were logging onto Parent Portal at the same time to see their schedules and it was causing major Internet traffic. The page-loading time was up to 30 minutes. It took me 20 minutes to be able to get onto Parent Portal and see my schedule. While I was waiting, I checked Twitter and saw that many people not just in my county, but throughout the country were being affected by the long wait time. Memes and complaints were made. People even went onto our county’s Twitter page and were like “Idgaf about this, I want to see my schedule”. #ParentPortal was trending on Twitter that day :)) I read one tweet that was like “If you’re on Parent Portal and you saw your schedule, great! Now G-T-F-O!” :))

We already got our schedule for next year.

1)AP Chem
2)AP Bio
3)English 3 (H)
Advisory) ACT Prep
4)Stats (H) and Chem 2 (H) ---- One semester each
5)APUSH
6)Pre Calc (H)
7)Spanish 4 (H)

…Hell Year

Is that your schedule period-by-period? @kassh4

@ak2018 Yup

@kassh4 Cool! I wish had mine this early.

Okay guys, I just thought of a really good idea. We could make our dream class period schedules! We’d just make a schedule that we wish we could have. Those who are already have their schedules can do this too. When you’re making your schedule, think about what works best for you. Like, would you rather have AP Chemistry in the morning or afternoon? Would you rather have your math class in the morning or afternoon? Make it the most perfect schedule you can dream of, because sometimes, it’s okay to dream. Maybe even explain why you put classes in certain places. I’ll make mine:

Period 1 - Engineering Explorations I/Robotics
Period 2 - Functions/Trigonometry
Period 3 - AP English 11
Period 4 - PLTW Principles of Engineering
Period 5 - Spanish II
Period 6 - AP Chemistry
Period 7 - United States and Virginia History

Since my school does things a little differently, my schedule will not go in the order above. Instead, we have periods 1, 2, 4, and 6 one day and periods 1, 3, 5, and 7 the next day, which we call blue and gold days, respectively. We have period 1 everyday, but it’s only 1 hour per day. All of my other classes are an hour and 20 minutes long. So my dream schedule would actually look like:

Blue Day Schedule

Period 1 - Engineering Explorations I/Robotics
Period 2 - Functions/Trigonometry
Period 4 - PLTW Principles of Engineering
Period 6 - AP Chemistry

Gold Day Schedule

Period 1 - Engineering Explorations I/Robotics
Period 3 - AP English 11
Period 5 - Spanish II
Period 7 - United States and Virginia History

I might as well explain why made my schedule the way I did. I especially like the Blue Day Schedule and if it actually happens I’d call it STEM Day instead because I would have both my Engineering classes, my math class, and science class, all in one day, which would be cool. I put Engineering Explorations I/Robotics as my first period because of my love of Engineering and the fact that I would have both homeroom and class in there everyday. However, I don’t think that will happen as Computer Math, the class I took last year, will probably take place 1st period in the same room as the Engineering room, like last year. I put Functions/Trigonometry (Pre-Calculus) as my second period because based off of last year, I can’t stand having math in the afternoon. It literally puts me to sleep. I put AP English 11 as my 3rd period simply because I’m okay with having English in the morning, but it’d also be a lot easier for me to write essays in the morning too, when I have more energy. I put PLTW Principles of Engineering as my 4th period because all of the Technology Electives, English Classes, and Art Electives (Except Theather) have the 1st lunch shift of the day. Meaning after math class, I’d go straight to lunch and then to PLTW Principles of Engineering right after lunch, which should be really easy to do since all I would need to do is use the left stairwell that connects the first and second floor cafeteria and turn left once I’m at the foot of the stairs on the first floor and go into a little corridor of classrooms. In this corridor, there are some ESOL classes, but it’s mainly where the Engineering, Auto Technology, and NJROTC (a class that trains you to go into the Navy) classes are. I put Spanish as my 5th period because I could honestly take Spanish class at any time. It’s one of those really chill classes, as long as you get a good teacher. I put AP Chemistry as my last period because I feel I could handle having AP Chemistry last. And I put United States and Virginia History as my 7th period because I can’t handle taking a history class in the morning without sleeping when we’re taking notes.

1)AP Chem
2)AP Bio
3)Pre Calc
Adv) ACT PREP
4)Stats/Chem 2
5)APUSH
6)English 3
7)Spanish 4

Not that much different compared to my real one.

We should make predictions/realistic goals for all our classes right now and see how close we were at the end of the semester

I get to schedule all my classes myself so I already scheduled one that works for me, but if I could, I’d change my physics lab to thursday afternoon instead of monday afternoon so I could fit in multivariable calculus and still be free for robotics meetings. Also, R stands for thursday.
Dream fall schedule:
7 AM: Chem (MTWF)
8 AM: Physics (MWTF)
9 AM: (2 hrs) English (TR)
1 PM: Calc (MTWF)
1 PM: (3 hrs) Physics Lab ®

@Kassh4 what do u mean by predictions?

@snowfairy137 What you think you are going to get in the class

@kassh4

Chem 151: Well, this is going to be hell bc I dont have the recommended prerequisite, a year of high school chemistry and I apperently have a hard professor. Oh well.
Phys 151: This should be fun. Hard, but fun. I like problem solving. At least I do rn.
Phys 161 (lab): Ok this better be interesting… I dont have a 3 hr attention span unless its interesting. Hopefully my lab partners will be helpful.
Engl 201: I hope I learn something new since English seems to have been a repeat since 7th grade. I predict a ton of essays though. I hope the proffesor is nice and funny because the classes are two hours.

@snowfairy137 @kassh4 Oh yeah, grade predictions. I remember doing that a little while back on this thread. Might as well as do it again. These are my predictions for 1st quarter:

Engineering Explorations I/Robotics - A
PLTW Principles of Engineering - A (Weighted)
AP Chemistry - B (Weighted)
United States and Virginia History - A
Functions/Trigonometry - A (Weighted)
Spanish II - A
AP English 11 - A (Weighted)

@snowfairy137 Is Chem 151 like AP level or at a CC.

@ak2018 How did you do in Intro to Chem?

@snowfairy137 I’d highly recommend looking over some Chemistry stuff, maybe using Crash Course Chemistry or Khan Academy, because Chemistry is definitely a tricky one, especially without a proper introduction.

Also do you happen to know when this year’s FRC/FTC/VEX challenges will be announced? I honestly can’t wait to start building robots again. I hope I’m going to be in the group and same Engineering Explorations I/Robotics class period as our school’s Robotics Club President. She’s a friend of mine and she knows a lot more about Robotics and Programming than I do. I also love how she breaks two STEM stereotypes. The fact she is a girl and the fact that she’s a blonde girl, and she is definitely not dumb by any measure. All I know is if we’re in the same class, I’d definitely want to be on her team. In the Engineering Explorations I/Robotics class, we’ll be paired up into groups of 7 - 10.

@kassh4 I had a high B (84%), but would’ve had a B+ (87%) if I didn’t screw up so much last quarter. I just caught an early case of senioritis more probably known as sophomoritis. :))