Hmm... Anyone Else Notice This? UC Admissions Stats

Applying to College
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These are the stats for students accepted by each of the UC’s in Fall of 2005:

Berkeley - 4.17 GPA, 1354 SAT, 693 SAT II Math, 677 SAT II Writing

UCLA - 4.11 GPA, 1341 SAT, 686 SAT II Math, 672 SAT II Writing

UCSD - 4.06 GPA, 1307 SAT, 669 SAT II Math, 649 SAT II Writing

UCSB - 3.91 GPA, 1244 SAT, 626 SAT II Math, 619 SAT II Writing

UCD - 3.88 GPA, 1248 SAT, 638 SAT II Math, 615 SAT II Writing

UCI - 3.88 GPA, 1248 SAT, 635 SAT II Math, 613 SAT II Writing

UCSC - 3.68 GPA, 1198 SAT, 598 SAT II Math, 593 SAT II Writing

UCR - 3.60 GPA, 1143 SAT, 582 SAT II Math, 555 SAT II Writing

UCM - 3.58 GPA, 1139 SAT, 580 SAT II Math, 552 SAT II Writing

Does anyone else notice the formation of three tiers within the UC system, each having three geographically representative schools? All we need is a UC business school in San Francisco (to match the other two exclusively graduate schools in San Francisco), and the system will be complete.

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<p>where did you find these stats on the UC site?</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2005/freshman_admit_profile_2005.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2005/freshman_admit_profile_2005.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>All the Math SAT II scores are higher than the Writing SAT II scores. Pathetic.</p>

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<p>Are those uc weighted gpas? I’ve seen these numbers the past years and I’ve wondred what they are representitive of.</p>

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<p>Yea, they are UC weighted GPA’s (capped at 8 honors/AP semesters). And about the SAT II scores… Are the UC’s generally known more for math/science/research or for their writing programs? Well anyway, does anyone have any comments about the development of three tiers within the system? While I may be biased as a future Triton, I think UCSD will be just as selective as UCLA and Berkeley within 10-15 years, just as the three middle schools and the three bottom schools are almost identical in their selectivity.</p>

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<p>laurak: thats just life… more people do better on math than in writing. not in my case, but nationwide, and i guess uc applicant wide, it’s true.</p>

<p>yes they are uc weighted gpa’s</p>

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<p>sinful_saint: It has nothing to do with what they’re “known” for. UCI is #2 in literary criticism and theory (and they also an extremely strong Creative Writing MFA program with Pulitzer Prize-winning graduates Michael Chabon and Richard Ford), and Berkeley’s English program is tied with Harvard and Yale. Besides, even at LACs math scores are higher than verbal, and it’s troubling to watch. But I guess my argument is by and large a weak one, considering our priorities. Anyway, I don’t want to get into a whole ideological argument over it–I’m merely stating my opinion in passing.</p>

<h2>awakenedream: I know, but as an English major it’s still sad to watch the ever-increasing gap between the two.</h2>

<p>Also, Berkeley and Santa Barbara don’t cap their GPAs.</p>

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<p>When they post their average GPAs, they do cap them at 8 Honors/AP semesters. In the “Introducing the University” guide, it says “the average high school GPA listed FOR EACH CAMPUS is computed from 10th and 11th grade coursework, including UP TO EIGHT HONORS COURSES.”</p>

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<p>And regardless of how well-regarded the english and writing programs at any of the UC’s are, the majority of the UC’s are generally known for their strength in the sciences and math. And most American high schools emphasize math and science more than writing ability, which is why so many freshman college students are unprepared to write at the college level. I’m not trying to say that I think science or math are more important than the ability to write well (my highest SAT II scores were in history and writing, my verbal SAT I was higher than my math, and my only 5 thus far on the AP exams I’ve taken was in English Lang), it’s just true that math is generally considered more important than the ability to write well and analyze literature.</p>

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<p>Does anyone know where to find the precentage of students admitted at each campus?</p>

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<p>No, I’ve been looking, but I can’t find them. But… Come on. Anyone else have any predictions on the future of the UC system?</p>

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<p>Yeah I think UCSD is on the rise. Its location is the key. People from LA and elsewhere don’t want to go to school at UCLA because both the city and the school are over crowded. A student there just talked to our math class as a former student and basically said class sizes are getting insane and the professor quality isn’t great, at least for freshmen. Many people don’t like Berkeley because of the town, I’ve heard of a few people choosing UCSD over UCB solely based on that factor alone. UCSD is also climbing the US news charts in rank so the perceived education quality gap is closing too. UCB and UCLA are great schools, but UCSD is just as good and is quickly becoming recognized for it nationally. Merced will be interesting to watch in the next ten years. It would be cool if UCI, UCD, and UCSC started specializing in different fields. Also Hastings should get more funding, the fact it is the UC law school and both Boalt Hall and UCLA outrank it as other UC law schools reflects kind of poorly on the system because I love the idea of a separate law school not on a huge university campus.</p>

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<p>in response to the comment about hastings, the UC’s were thinking of privatizing one of the law schools… boalt perhaps. ucla anderson has also considered privatization.</p>

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<p>oh wow i got into ucb with a 640 math IIc…<em>thanks god and who/whatever else there is to thank</em></p>

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<p>is it really true that most of the UC’s have almost 96-98% of their freshman class in the top 10%? That is an amazing fact.</p>

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<p>how do the uc’s know though… i know they know the top 4% for elc, but what about the rest? kids don’t send transcripts until after they’re accepted, if there is a ranking on the transcript… my school doesn’t even release ranking info, we have no valedictorians or whatever</p>

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<p>You just said it awakened. They know who’s in the top 10% by looking at the transcripts they receive from students who have accepted their offers of admissions. Those statistics are apparently for students who end up attending the UC’s, and not for students who are accepted by them.</p>

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<p>do most schools release ranking info on transcripts? mine don’t, they don’t release any kind of ranking for the students to know…</p>

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<p>Mine does release class rank.</p>