Hold off on all Toyotas?

[BunsenBurner]

<p>The recall is in the US, but I have to learn about it from BBC - ?</p>

<p>[BBC</a> News - Honda recalls 410,000 cars in US](<a href=“http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8571118.stm]BBC”>BBC News - Honda recalls 410,000 cars in US)</p>

[sax]

<p>Father jailed for accident he swore was caused by problems with the acceleration.
[‘Toyota</a> Defense’ Might Rescue Jailed Minnesota Man : NPR](<a href=“http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124070164]'Toyota”>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124070164)</p>

<p>I have been a toyota owner since 1986.
How can you not believe there is a problem?
I will not play the lottery by driving my rav 4.</p>

<p>notre dame al: thanks for that great link. We are still researching trucks/suv’s.
Only paid 17,600 for the 2009 Rav 4 w/ roof rack and third row seating during peak recession and with clunker cash and stimulis money to pay closing costs.</p>

[Treetopleaf]

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…and now the supposed Prius problem cannot be duplicated by ANYONE

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<p>Sax’s original article did make sense, in that faulty sensors could cause the problem.</p>

<p>When we hear that no one can reproduce the problem, I have to wonder if they are driving down the road, pushing the accelerator, brake, etc. or if they are in a lab setting selectively forcing sensor inputs to see how the system reacts. Intermittent problems are hard to solve, and 2 hours of investigation is not sufficient to discover those sorts of problems.</p>

[BunsenBurner]

<p>Ooops:</p>

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HARRISON, N.Y. – Police who investigated the crash of a Toyota Prius in the New York suburbs said Monday they agreed with federal regulators that driver error caused it.</p>

<p>The investigation found that the driver, housekeeper Gloria Rosel, never braked before she crashed into a wall, Harrison police Capt. Anthony Marraccini said. She was not seriously injured.</p>

<p>“The vehicle accelertor in this case was depressed 100 percent at the time of collision, and there was absolutely no indication of any brake application,” Marraccini said.</p>

<p>“She believes she depressed the brake, but that just simply isn’t the case here,” he said. There was no intent to deceive, Marraccini said, and Rosel won’t be charged.

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<p>[NY</a> police agree driver error caused Prius crash - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100322/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius_ny]NY”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100322/ap_on_bi_ge/us_runaway_prius_ny)</p>

<p>Another driver error.</p>

[Nrdsb4]

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When we hear that no one can reproduce the problem, I have to wonder if they are driving down the road, pushing the accelerator, brake, etc. or if they are in a lab setting selectively forcing sensor inputs to see how the system reacts. Intermittent problems are hard to solve, and 2 hours of investigation is not sufficient to discover those sorts of problems.

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<p>Reminds me of my dog. She has been limping horribly lately, but when I take her to the vet, she never does it. It’s kind of hard for the vet to figure out the problem when she can’t see it. I wonder if behind my back they’re calling me the Munchausen by Proxy mom, lol.</p>

[BCEagle91]

<p>Toyota sales are strong in my local area for March. There was an article in the paper where March sales for 2010 will be quite a bit stronger than they were in 2009. Of course massive incentives helps things along.</p>

[BunsenBurner]

<p>Oops… Anther Honda recall… Check if your vehicle is affected:</p>

<p>[Honda</a> to recall 428,000 vehicles in N. America](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/canada_us_honda_recall]Honda”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/canada_us_honda_recall)</p>

[BCEagle91]

<p>My Toyota is affected by the latest Avalon/Lexus recall - steering wheel can lock while the car is in motion. Wonderful. They’re supposed to start the recall at the end of August.</p>

<p>If you have an affected Honda, just remember to use the parking brake.</p>