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<p>Yet again you still fail to understand the difference between anecdotal evidence and objective facts. Theoretically, I could provide a list just as long as why men have it worse, overall, than women.</p>
<p>Since none of us can provide “evidence”, why don’t we just both agree we can’t backup statements like “men are more oppressed” or “the system is still slanted towards women”? It would save alot of headache.</p>
<p>You’ve been saying that you can show me cases where women have it easier, so I’m not sure why you’re criticizing me.</p>
<p>Also, aren’t you that kid who said he was 4’11"? Then, when you were insulted, accused the posters of “heightism”?</p>
<p>LOL
■■■■■■■■…just ■■■■■■■■ around</p>
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Happiness is no “small thing”. Living a long, healthy life is no “small thing”.</p>
<p>Why do you think men would commit suicide more often if life was better for them than for women? Does it really make any sense?</p>
<p>And that paragraph I posted wasn’t from “scientific journal” or anything. You could easily find it by using an Internet search engine called “Google”.</p>
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I can’t say I’m particularly interested in it. If women earn less, that’s not necessarily men’s fault. Plenty of women major in liberal arts (English, women’s studies, sociology, psychology); few of them go into engineering or other hard science fields. Do you really expect them to make as much as men who feel obligated to pursue to “lifelessly-dull-but-nonetheless-lucrative” majors in order to provide for their families?</p>
<p>I’m sorry, but as long as women are both happier and living longer than men, I can’t accept the notion that men are the ones more advantaged in life.</p>
<p>Let’s just leave it at this: We can agree to disagree and keep the conversation civilized.</p>
<p>But I will fight kitchen jokes from other posters, if necessary, and perhaps come up with better points later…as I am extremely tired.</p>
<p>Yawn, it’s funny you mention that the suicide rate in men is higher. I learned in Psychology several weeks ago that the rate is higher because men are less willing to seek help for psychological issues.</p>
<p>Usually, men feel an “obligation” to be the stronger sex, so are less willing to admit an emotional problem. Therefore, this could later culminate in suicidal tendencies. It mentioned it in my textbook–Abnormal Psychology with McGraw Hill, of course.</p>
<p>I also never mentioned a “small thing.”</p>
<p>LOL…that sounds bad, sorry</p>
<p>^ Oddly enough, I believe I used that same exact textbook in my own Abnormal Psychology class.</p>
<p>When did you take it? This one was purchased this year.</p>
<p>^ I took it fall of 2007. I don’t suspect we used the exact same book. ;)</p>
<p>As a college course offered in high school or in college?</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I’m sure similar material was included.</p>
<p>Haha, my response matched your statement perfectly.</p>
<p>This is the book I used: <a href=“http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/books/80/9780077236380.jpg[/url]”>http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/books/80/9780077236380.jpg</a></p>
<p>Took it first semester of freshman year. Back then, I was planning on majoring in psychology. Now I’m doing Business Economics/Accounting, so I’ll have enough money to support a family. :)</p>
<p>[/epic circular structure]</p>
<p>I see. My book has a snazzy painting on the front, ftw.</p>
<p>Do you have a family? Is this why you switched majors? Or did you switch because you love the “circular flow of income”?</p>
<p>Hahaha</p>
<p>Well, I do have a family, but not a wife and kids. o.O</p>
<p>I meant in the <em>future</em>. Poor guys don’t get da wimmenz, ya know. ;)</p>
<p>Yeah, I was thinking that… </p>
<p>College guys don’t get “wimmenz” or graduates don’t get “wimmenz”?</p>
<p>Who does get wimmenz?!?</p>
<p>^ College guys and graduates both get da wimmenz, provided they have da carz and da moneyz.</p>
<p>And lesbians get da wimmenz as well.</p>
<p>As well as all da kittehz. And puppeez.</p>
<p>But da po’ guyz wit no moneyz don get no wimmenz. :(</p>
<p>[/AP Lang failed meh]</p>
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You could stretch this and say that this accounts for nearly all of the inequalities between the sexes, such as men strives harder to earn more because they feel an “obligation” to be the stronger sex etc.</p>
<p>Actually, the suicide rate in men is higher because men are more likely to be successful in their suicide attempts. Women attempt suicide at a higher rate than men, but they tend to use less successful methods. Men use more direct and more fatal methods in which to kill themselves. But yes, mental illness (especially depression) is associated with femininity and discourages men from seeking care.</p>
<p>To the OP, I really suggest that you take Intro to Women’s Studies, or Psychology of Gender, or Race, Class, and Gender, or any class like that. Or direct your question to a good women’s studies professor at your college. Or pick up a book on Amazon with an introduction to feminism, This thread is…well, it’s a wealth of misinformation.</p>
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Well, it is debatable to why they are more successful, I have seen opinions that it is because most women who tries to suicide are not really suicidal but instead just wants people to notice them, while when a man do it he do it because he wants to die.</p>
<p>It is not like it is hard to kill yourself, if you jump from the sixth floor, shoots yourself through your cerebellum, cut your vein on your throat or take a huge overdose of medicals there is no way you will not die. But if you do half assed attempts such as just cutting your wrists deeply, jumping from the third floor or taking half of what’s a deadly dose of course you will survive, and I am sure that most who attempts that knows that as well.</p>
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If this is true (i haven’t looked it up, but will take your word for it) then there are 2 explanations I can think of:</p>
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<li><p>Women are genuinally dumber than men, so dumb they aren’t even capable of killing themselves correctly and men are more successful even in suicide, or</p></li>
<li><p>Women are just as smart as men and equally capable of committing suicide correctly, but have a lot more half-assed attempts because fewer really want to die. It is not hard to commit suicide, and the method by which the person attempts it tells you a lot about his/her character. Maybe fewer women really want to commit suicide since we are more empathetic, care more about the people left behind, are more optimistic in our worldview, are less stressed out because we release our emotions more easily, etc. These are just some possible guesses. I’m going with #2 here, more women make half-assed attempts at suicide because they’re not as serious about it.</p></li>
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<p>I don’t know, I think it’s a lot easier to be a woman than a man. I just feel that as a girl, I have it easier.</p>
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