How are women "oppressed" by men?

<p>I want to be a doctor as well (Vet), but I’m prepared for the difficulties ahead. There are plenty of women who have not received credit in the science field.</p>

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<p>Dame Jocelyn Bell Burnell, DBE, FRS, FRAS (born Susan Jocelyn Bell on 15 July 1943) is a British astrophysicist who, as a postgraduate student, discovered the first radio pulsars with her thesis advisor Antony Hewish, for which he won a Nobel Prize.</p>

<p>The paper announcing the discovery had five authors, Hewish’s name being listed first, Bell’s second. Hewish was awarded the Nobel Prize, along with Martin Ryle, without the inclusion of Bell as a co-recipient, which was controversial, and was roundly condemned by Hewish’s fellow astronomer Fred Hoyle.[1] The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, in their press release announcing the 1974 Nobel Prize in Physics[2], cited Ryle and Hewish for their pioneering work in radio-astrophysics, with particular mention of Ryle’s work on aperture-synthesis technique, and Hewish’s decisive role in the discovery of pulsars. Iosif Shklovsky, recipient of the 1972 Bruce Medal, had sought out Bell at the 1970 IAU General Assembly, to tell her “Miss Bell, you have made the greatest astronomical discovery of the twentieth century.”</p>

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<p>This is why I can’t argue with you. Women have all the rights that a man does. I assume you’re talking about the different things that men are “attributed”. Well guess what? Maybe men are oppressed because we can’t have babies…</p>

<p>THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SEXES. Read that over a couple times then look below.</p>

<p>If a woman was looked at the way a man was looked at, things would be unequal all over again.</p>

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And yet, it only applied to gays, not lesbians.</p>

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…you’re honestly using an example from 1974? o.O</p>

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<p>no, the solution is to stop defining women’s worth from their bodies & start valuing all people because of WHO they are, not how they look.</p>

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i don’t think evaluating her campaign itself is relevant here. instead, we should be looking at her reception by the media, which many would agree were pretty sexist (right down to the way they constantly referred to her as “hillary” while they referred to obama by his last name, & the way they evaluated and reevaluated her wardrobe selection). i believe that this treatment was based mainly on the fact that she doesn’t present herself as a typical, traditional woman–however, sarah palin absolutely does, and no one was making nutcracker dolls modeled after her (instead, they made her into a barbie–shocking).</p>

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<p>This will never happen because of the way we have evolved. It would be a nice fairy tale but it just won’t happen.</p>

<p>“If a woman was looked at the way a man was looked at, things would be unequal all over again.”</p>

<p>How so? Apart from the biological differences, how?</p>

<p>Example: Women do NOT have the right to serve in combat, as does a man. </p>

<p>and they do not have this: “Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.”</p>

<p>^That is nowhere in the Constitution.</p>

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<p>This is true, there’s a lot more homophobia among men than women.</p>

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<p>A lot of people do this, I don’t think anyone goes for 100% looks in a partner, I was just saying that girls are expected to put a lot more effort into looking good.</p>

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Sorry, but men don’t respect women for being more attractive. Being attracted to someone doesn’t mean you respect them.</p>

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Most guys have been saying something along the lines of, “If you want to get yourself killed, go right ahead” for quite some time.</p>

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<p>did you wear a low-cut shirt to your last job interview because you knew you had a better chance getting the job that way? because i did.</p>

<p>i’m going to guess that you prepared you work experience, thought about some interview questions, etc. instead of doing this, i shaved my legs, did my hair, picked out an outfit and wore some killer heels. it’s kind of unfortunate to know that sometimes it’s necessary to use my body to get ahead, but i don’t really have much of a choice–i wasn’t going to get the waitressing job if i didn’t present myself that way.</p>

<p>i’d argue that this knowledge absolutely affects my quality of life.</p>

<p>Yawn, I used that example to prove that it is harder for a woman to enter the science field. There are far more male astronauts, as well. That example was simply known to me, but I’m sure I could find more recent ones.</p>

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i never said anything about respect. i was alluding only to acceptance, which often is all women can hope for.</p>

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<p>It’s all biological. You can’t paint a pear red and allow it to be both an apple and a pear at the same time. I doubt if you’ll understand this though since you didn’t understand any other of my points.</p>

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<p>Well I’m sure all women dream of becoming soldiers when they grow up. Not being drafted, now that is true oppression.</p>

<p>Darko, answer this:</p>

<p>If men and women are TRULY considered equal, all around, then why has there never been a female President?</p>

<p>Why aren’t there as many female senators as male senators or as many female representatives?</p>

<p>Why are there more male doctors, scientists, astronauts, mathematicians, governors, lawyers, CEOs, etc.?</p>

<p>Darko: So, being equal in the military is true oppression? The guys earlier were arguing for such.</p>

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Sounds like an advantage to me. If I could use my sex appeal to get things in life, I’d be pretty f-ckin’ grateful.</p>

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Yeah, well I could pull an anecdote from 1974 about how hard it was for Indians to become doctors.</p>

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Do you really think all guys are automatically “accepted”? There are millions, if not billions, of guys out there who would beg to differ.</p>

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<p>If you got the job then no it doesn’t affect your quality of life. This is besides the fact we already discussed earlier- that you dress that way not because of the way the interviewer will act, but to look better than the other women. You have no one to blame but yourself so you can’t complain.</p>

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<p>Go back and read all of my posts again.</p>

<p>Just because men hold top positions in no way lowers the quality of life or even oppresses women.</p>

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<p>And this is the problem, that women are often judged based on looks.</p>

<p>Basically, you’re confusing two separate issues. Guys have to deal with homophobia and girls have to deal with sexism.</p>

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<p>If men hold more positions of power, more women have to answer to men than vice versa, which does oppress women.</p>

<p>An anecdote? I had to search for that…</p>

<p>I didn’t have a ready description or know the story verbatim. Apparently, if you’ve heard of something ahead of time, it can’t be used. </p>

<p>And if you could, go ahead and do it.</p>

<p>[Women</a> Astronauts](<a href=“http://www.vibrationdata.com/space/Women.htm]Women”>Women Astronauts)</p>

<p>I mean, seriously, the first American woman didn’t go into space until 20 years after Alan Shepard–the first American man.</p>

<p>"Go back and read all of my posts again.</p>

<p>Just because men hold top positions in no way lowers the quality of life or even oppresses women."</p>

<p>Just because WAY MORE men hold top positions. This doesn’t affect the quality of life for a woman? What about the woman who wanted to be President? I guarantee it affected her quality of life. You’re assuming that every woman is content being second best.</p>