How are women "oppressed" by men?

<p>It’s obvious that you did not pay attention to the court case. You just saw that the girl was African-American and thought it was purely racial discrimination. His claim was taken more seriously because he was a male, while her claim was taken less seriously…because she was female. It clearly says that.</p>

<p>You’ve failed to truly pay attention to any detail. I just listed opportunities that they don’t have, whether they number few to you or not. </p>

<p>And what does this being the U.S. have anything to do with that? Your posts and refutations make absolutely no sense. At least other users, such as Yawn, attempted to come back with something coherent.</p>

<p>“What we need are laws to protect working people, to guarantee them fair pay, safe working conditions, protection against sickness and layoffs, and provision for dignified, comfortable retirement. Men and women need these things equally. That one sex needs protection more than the other is a male supremacist myth as ridiculous and unworthy of respect as the white supremacist myths that society is trying to cure itself of at this time.” </p>

<p>“No we don’t.”</p>

<p>So you’re saying that there shouldn’t be laws protecting both sexes equally, or did you just not read that?</p>

<p>Anyway, I’m tired of talking to someone who only sees their point of view.</p>

<p>Also: Speculation? It’s a real possibility…</p>

<p>That’s like saying, “Oh, scientists SAID that smoking causes cancer, but that’s purely speculation! Argument void!”</p>

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<p>You’re going to base the way the entire society views women based on one case?</p>

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<p>You listed one opportunity that they don’t have, and that is the right to serve in combat.</p>

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<p>If you can’t understand what I’m saying then you must be ■■■■■■■■. Anyways I was replying to this part which also makes absolutely no sense:</p>

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<p>You’re saying that because a president election for a woman is important, women are not equal? That makes perfect sense!</p>

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<p>I just didn’t read it because it’s you’re opinion with nothing factual.</p>

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<p>Stop arguing then, it’s clear you don’t have a good case anyways.</p>

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<p>No it’s more like saying “The future could be unfortunate for us humans, so let’s blow up the world so the future doesn’t come!” </p>

<p>Saying that smoking causes cancer with actual evidence is not speculation by the way.</p>

<p>Darko–are you still in high school?</p>

<p>It’s going to be kind of rough for you when you get to college and meet lots of new people with lots of varying opinions and you say things to them like “I have no desire to consider what you think.”</p>

<p>Leah, thanks for your concern of my wellbeing. I’m actually already in college and open to many new ideas and have a passion for learning, especially in computer science.</p>

<p>I also have a passion for striking down ideas that serve nothing more than a bandwagon for distraught emotional women looking for something to complain about.</p>

<p>blairb91, I asked you what opportunities we’re being denied that men have except for military combat. You answered by listing military combat, something about the constitution I don’t get (it states “people” - men and women, so what?), and a court case.</p>

<p>The court case is just one example of sexism in our society, there are several others. But please tell me - what rights do we not have? you stated:

What specific opportunities, rights and privileges are we being denied besides military combat?</p>

<p>I think a lot of people are being presumptuous about sexism in the workplace, since most of us haven’t had full-time jobs. I’ve seen sexism against women by men and women at my high school and college. I’ve seen the statistics that men are paid better on average. And anything beyond that is speculation.</p>

<p>^^^^^^^^^^^
I do not really understand those “Sexism” things, as I understand it as soon as men bully’s women it is sexism, but it happens all the time that men bullies men and women bullies women. I think the reason we haven’t heard of women bullying men much is because most men are not aware that they are being bullied since women usually do it by talking **** behind their back and freezing them out of social events and men are quite a bit worse at picking up social cues.</p>

<p>Anyhow, why call it “sexism” when you could just call it “Bullying” like you do with most imbalanced workplace conflicts? It is sexism when a man call a woman a whore, but when a woman calls a woman a whore it is bullying, can’t we just say that workplace bullying is a problem against people who do not directly fit in? And no, it is not impossible for a woman to fit in in a male environment.</p>

<p>I would say that there are definitely more aggressive men than women. Just by having that fact we could just logically conclude that when anyone gets hurt it is most likely a man who did it, whether it is a woman or a man. What I do not understand here are the conspiracy theories where people believe that men likes to hurt specifically women? I mean, most violence victims are men especially if the violence is severe!</p>

<p>And of course, not to say that all men are violent since they are not, there are just more of them.</p>

<p>It’s not just violence, although women are more likely to be beat by men than vice-versa, it’s that the professors at my school give men higher subjective grades, statistics show that men are more likely to earn promotions, men aren’t encouraged to take paternal leave, and the teachers I had in high school helped out the boys more and took them more seriously.</p>

<p>^ Stop using your own personal anecdotal experience as if its a universal truth. It’s not particularly convincing.</p>

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Guess what? Men are more likely than women to be violently attacked by men. WOAH!</p>

<p>It’s called “the bigger picture”. See what you want to see, and you will see it.</p>

<p>It’s statistics as well as anecdotal truth, yawn. Besides, when the statistics were brought up, people said that their personal experiences didn’t confirm those statistics. I simply put that mine did.</p>

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<p>This has nothing to do with sexism.</p>

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NOW YOU’RE GETTING IT!</p>

<p>That has nothing to do with sexism, and neither does women being beat by men more than vice versa, because men “beat” more in general - both men AND women!</p>

<p><em>waits for lightbulb to flash</em></p>

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<p>See, this is why no one can take anything you say seriously.</p>

<p>I mean come on, any moron could have put two and two together and figure that BECAUSE men commit more violent acts in general (against men and women) that of course that male -> female violence would be bigger. What you have come along and done is typical of feminists; you applied some causality the way you saw fit where in fact you had no logical basis for doing so and then spoke it like it was gospel. Your username is ironic in the utmost fashion.</p>

<p>Women aren’t restricted by law to do anything that men can do (unlike the vice-versa). Therefore they are not oppressed. Any argument for “oppression” beyond that is fallacious as it is an attempt to “prove” a non-falsifiable statement with subjective interpretation.</p>

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<p>Girls and guys let me tell you how it works. I go to a very selective small liberal arts college and most of the time guys could care less about what you do to yourself. However, my understanding is that at most other schools how girls dress and trim themselves can be a social issue. I am not here to tell you what to do, but rather give you advice on a very serious issue that I encountered as a freshman girl. I was sexually assaulted - I feel as though this topic is not nearly talked enough about at most schools because the reality is that schools don’t want bad press. In reality schools cringe when they hear the words “sexual assault” - girls and guys this is a big issue and I hope that when you go to college or if you are already in college, that you have a talk with your partner and peer about consent. Consent is sexy and trust me those talks can relieve you from painstaking processes in the form of a sort of aftermath. The bottom line guys and girls is that the way women view themselves in the context of the subject in this forum is correlated to the theme of sexual assault. Girls watch out for one another, ask your partner those difficult questions, guys lookout for girls like they were your little sisters. Sexual assault is real and frankly almost rampant - so let’s make a collective effort to reduce/stop this epidemic. I hope you all read this and can get back to me with feedback - I think it’s time we have an open and real discussion about how to fix the problem, we can all recognize that the problem exists, I am not the only girl I know of at my college who has gone through this, it is also under reported. I want to help other students out there - please let me be a resource.</p>

<p>I just wanted to say hello. I do not feel that complaining about suppressed women is a way to solve the issue. I think you need to recognize that sexual assault and harassment does occur and that in reality although it does happen is must not. When I say should not, I mean a girl should be able to lay naked on the lawn and feel completely safe - know we know that lying naked on the lawn is not the best idea in regards to our safety, so we don’t do it. I understand your frustration about women complaining when they do not have a reason to be, but I do. I was sexually assaulted in college and I am attempting to do the best job possible to spread awareness about the subject. Men can stop rape. I really believe that the issue is not only females, but also males. I would love to open up a discussion with you about consent and sexual assault. Hopefully, you’ll be able to tell your friends at school of a new perspective. I am not going to be hostile; I just want us to come to a mutual understanding of the issue, so that you can pass this knowledge or conversation forward to ensure that women in your community do not have to be victims of what I consider one of the most heinous crimes. Thanks.</p>

<p>A lot of the “statistics” thrown around here are dated or patently false.</p>

<p>Wages are no longer 75 cents to a dollar - if even unequal. Link a study from a scientific journal if you disagree, only thing I’ll bother considering.</p>

<p>The statistic that “1 in 4 women will be raped in college” was SIMPLY INVENTED. This is from a meta-analysis study conducted by a woman - the original 70s researchers had an agenda used the operational definition of rape as “a man tapped your shoulder, and you weren’t annoyed but you weren’t delighted” as full-blown rape. Do a little investigating. Then someone didn’t even remember that “made-up” stat and cited 1 in 3 are raped. Christ almighty.</p>

<p>Twice as many men are raped than women each year. In prisons. But of course prison rape is funny, right?</p>

<p>More men are assaulted, as has been mentioned already.</p>

<p>More women are accepted and attend college, and get degrees than men. They live longer, are generally happier, and men are 4x more likely to commit suicide.</p>

<p>Basically men have the physical power (which they can’t use even remotely for huge reprisals) and women have the sexual power (which they use and flaunt mercilessly).</p>

<p>I am a man and I will never, ever apologize for being one. For anyone that hates men — GO TO HELL!</p>

<p>I just came back from a lecture; I have plenty more to say about this, but I’ll just respond to your personal anecdote Logic Warrior.</p>

<p>I was in this public speaking class, and quite frankly, I am an awesome speaker and veteran actor of nearly a decade. I don’t expect free As or free rides, but when I give something that’s pretty f’ing good, I expect at least not to blasted gradewise. Yet, all the guys I talked to in the class (several also fairly good, well-rehearsed speakers) as well as myself just could not get better grades speech to speech (I’m talking above a freakin’ C), with few and contradictory remarks like “too casual” on the same page as “over-rehearsed”.</p>

<p>I figured the instructor (a male) was simply a really tough grader who must have had really high standards. Then I eventually discovered the two “bubbly” girls in the front row, who happened to enjoy putting their racks on display as much as giving fumbling, unprepared, read-the-notecards speeches, were getting As all the while. Fortunately, I still had time to drop the class and did so in a heartbeat. I would have reported that creepy a-hole, but it was too much trouble and what evidence did I have anyway on something pretty subjective?</p>

<p>Anyway most elementary and high schools are taught and run by women anyway. I think things are fair enough in terms of gender, but there are exceptions as shown.</p>

<p>Hello,
I just wanted to say hello. I do not feel that complaining about suppressed women is a way to solve the issue. I think you need to recognize that sexual assault and harassment does occur and that in reality although it does happen is must not. When I say should not, I mean a girl should be able to lay naked on the lawn and feel completely safe - know we know that lying naked on the lawn is not the best idea in regards to our safety, so we don’t do it. I understand your frustration about women complaining when they do not have a reason to be, but I do. I was sexually assaulted in college and I am attempting to do the best job possible to spread awareness about the subject. Men can stop rape. I really believe that the issue is not only females, but also males. I would love to open up a discussion with you about consent and sexual assault. Hopefully, you’ll be able to tell your friends at school of a new perspective. I am not going to be hostile; I just want us to come to a mutual understanding of the issue, so that you can pass this knowledge or conversation forward to ensure that women in your community do not have to be victims of what I consider one of the most heinous crimes. Thanks.</p>

<p>anewperspective you remind me of one of those religious fanatics that go door to door. No one’s going to respond to you since you’re clearly coming to “just say hello”.</p>