how do you handle jealousy at school: rats/snitches/tattlers?

<p>Okay so I go to a fairly competitive public high school. it’s actually like a magnet school for science/technology students. most of our alumni end up becoming successful engineers or researchers of some sort or another.</p>

<p>given this incredibly competitive atmosphere, we all take tonz of ap/honors classes. it’s like the norm. our school offers six classes a day, and some ppl give up their lunch break to take additional aps. </p>

<p>so in september this year, i ran for student government secretary. i thought it would be nice to get involved with something like that senior year, and well yeah, it obviously looks attractive on a college app. but the thing is our school wants all student govt officers to take a civic duty training course during lunch, and i’m one of those kids who gave up my lunch break to take another class; introduction to mechanical engineering. it’s pretty basic stuff, it’s really not a big deal but i really wanted to take this class and see whether or not i want to continue pursuing engineering in college. plus it’s one of like five course options about future professional planning that is required for us to graduate. actual student govt meetings occur after school anyway, and i already took this civic duty training course my freshman year, so i figured i’d be fine not taking it again. plus our immediate class level advisor, not the general one overall, said the civic duty course was kind of a waste of time since we didn’t get any work done in there anyway.</p>

<p>but then last week i got a called to the office of the student govt advisor. and he told me if i don’t take the civic duty course, i can’t be an officer. i asked him why, given that no student govt work gets done in that course anyway, it all happens after school. he told me he wanted the officers to be equipped with necessary skills to lead the school successfully. and i told him i already took the course, but then he said i had to take it again if i wanted to hold onto my position. after which he proceeded to tell me about how other students gave up their ap/honors courses to take the training course and serve as officers and it wasn’t fair if i was able to serve without taking the course (again).</p>

<p>and then, here’s the shocker, this advisor tells me that taking my mechanical engineering class is something i could easily give up to serve as an officer. he didn’t think it was justified that i take it instead of a civic duty course. he then also tells me about how there’s more to life than taking 10 ap courses (i’m not in ten ap courses, geez!) now this advisor has no way of knowing my schedule and my specific courses without either a) talking to my counselor, or b) hearing it from another student.</p>

<p>in this case, he heard it from another student. another guy in my class who is currently treasurer of student govt. now this guy is really competitive, he takes a lot of aps but fails to do well in them. he’s a pretty outgoing/outspoken person though. i used to admire this guy, i thought he was a great leader regardless of his academic ability. but turns out he asked me my schedule the first week of school, and i being a total idiot, told him all the classes i was in. he then proceeded to report me to our advisor, and basically told the advisor how i was in “all academic” classes b/c i cared more about my class rank than taking the civic duty course, and consequently i lost my position.</p>

<p>at this point, the lost position is not a big deal to me. it really wasn’t going to do much for me in terms of college apps anyway, really i thought it would just be a fun thing to do. </p>

<p>but what really does bother me is how this guy i thought was a decent kid reported me and then how this advisor, in the most unprofessional way, starts challenging the courses i take and the validity of my taking those courses. really it’s totally hypocritical; there are a couple of kids who complain about our school’s reputation for being ap-crazed try and make it seem like NOT taking ap/honors is some noble endeavor when a lot of them are really just burning up with jealousy inside b/c they DO take just as many ap/honors as a lot of the high achievers…they just fail to do as well in them because they either don’t put the effort or find it’s beyond their ability at present to do well at that level of rigor. which is totally fine, not everyone can get ten 5’s a year on their AP exams, and there are plenty of other interests out there in the world to pursue. but it’s really not okay to try and slash out at someone who takes a lot of challenging courses and try to undermine their achievements right?</p>

<p>haha wow that was long and i’m totally ranting. i’m just frustrated, and i don’t know what to do about this. should i forget it and wait till senior year ends and i’m outta here? i really want to confront the advisor, but he’s a pretty respected teacher at my school and i don’t know how. honestly i think he’s just bitter b/c he’s one of the only teachers at my school who doesn’t teach any advanced classes (he teaches the civic duty course in question and a couple other tutoring support/study skills type workshops, basically most kids think he’s a total joke and doesn’t deserve his job). but i can’t just say that and i don’t want to leave the school on bad terms.</p>

<p>and i don’t know what to do about this guy… i’ve actually helped him on several occasions too, with homework and studying for tests when he was failing in a particularly challenging math course last year. i did it b/c he asked me to even though i was really busy. i helped him raise his grade too, from like an F to a decent B. i don’t want to stoop to his level and attack him or anything or spread rumors like he did to me. but i also don’t want to set a precedent…the guy who reported me today for not being in a course and made me lose my position could just as easily find some petty reason or other to report me to a college i’ve been accepted to and potentially get me rescinded.</p>

<p>so if anyone actually read through this, do you have any advice/suggestions/insights on how i might handle this whole situation? should i do anything or just sit on it and forget about it? thanks=)</p>

<p>Just forget about it… Not in the sit and do nothing sorta way, but the calm and non-confrontational way. Nothing in high school, especially something for college apps is worth putting up with that kind of BS. </p>

<p>That’s why I hate competitive high schools. :)</p>

<p>I didn’t read your entire rant, but I know what it’s like to go to a competitive high school. The atmosphere is sickening at times, but hey, there’s not much we can do except push on.</p>

<p>Do you go to TJ?</p>

<p>i go to a school like that, except everyone is not smart; just competitive!</p>

<p>My advice: Don’t tell anyone anything. misinformation is key. Act like a dumb blonde, like you have no idea what you are doing/easy breezy. Don’t give out any info you wouldn’t mind told to your worst enemy/teacher, etc.</p>

<p>One last piece of advice: NEVER tell anyone what colleges you are applying to. People at competitive schools will often “spite” candidates and all apply to that school. To this end, don’t wear any college sweatshirts of the schools you like. From personal experience, a girl at my school kept track of all the sweatshirts I had worn freshman-junior year and asked if I was applying to “x, y, and a”</p>

<p>I guess my school is somewhat competitive, but not at that level. I mean we all know where we are going to apply early so its not like its a big secret. I would have hated to go to a school were you can’t get along and come together as a class. But I would just stick it out, student government is not needed to get into college and my question to you would be that do you really want to work with people that are willing to put your name in the mud? My guess is no, so just keep on working hard and get into college.</p>

<p>haha thanks you guys, i feel much better already!</p>

<p>@melancholy dane, i’m guessing no since i’ve never heard of TJ.</p>

<p>@anon_person, lol that’s scary. yeah i’ve been really reluctant to wear my columbia or brown sweatshirts this year because i don’t want to give ppl the wrong (or right) impression so early on. and acting like a dumb blonde is actually a really smart idea, haha information is power after all.</p>

<p>yeah i think i will just completely give up on student govt, and forget about that annoying teacher and student, and focus on getting accepted into college. after all, hopefully if/once i get accepted, all this stuff will become really trivial anyway.</p>

<p>thanks again=)</p>

<p>this seems pretty much resolved. but yeah my school is similar to yours and its just really frustrating!</p>

<p>don’t worry…this stuff happens in competitve schools…just focus on college…we all have those bad days…you’ll be satisfied when your hard work pays off =]</p>

<p>Skimmed it, ROFL@ that guy who would bother to do something like that. For a position? Some of the people these days…I wouldn’t even do that for a full letter grade or anything, I’d be too lazy.</p>

<p>It’s good that you don’t need to stoop to that level. It’s not a huge deal imo, there are people like that everywhere and you’ll just have to live…</p>

<p>We ostracized them from the school social life.</p>

<p>Kind of like a modern day tar-and-feathering, without the tar or feathers.</p>

<p>I love my school… </p>

<p>I’m the only one using the common app. Out of 400 seniors. </p>

<p>Nobody cares about competition, or college apps, or school in general.</p>

<p>I hate overachievers (because they are my rivals :P) and well, we all snitch on each other in terms of telling each other questions to the test.</p>

<p>Melancholy do you go there? I know a lot of kids who do</p>

<p>Oh man, that situation sucks. :(</p>

<p>I totally know what you mean about, like, people who accuse other people of doing things to bump up their resumes when they do the same thing. I mean, I admit it, I’m sort of a finger-pointer when it comes to the whole “RARRR YOU’RE JUST LIVING YOUR LIFE TO LOOK GOOD ON PAPER” thing, lol, since I’m sort of bitter that people do that. But even I admit that it’s pretty preposterous to make judgments like that. I mean, it’s not like everyone who ever takes an AP class is absolutely in love with the subject! We ALL take our resumes into account when choosing our courses, and people who claim otherwise are, like those you described in your post, jealous. </p>

<p>Anyways, sorry about what that guy did. You really got the short end of the stick here. But I’m sure things’ll work out for you and maybe not so well not for him – clearly, you’re the one with the talent and the drive, and YOU don’t have to sink to immature levels to succeed.</p>

<p>Snitches get stitches.</p>

<p>And I imagine the teacher just asked for a copy of your schedule from the front office.</p>