<p>Don’t you have to have more or less a 3.6 GPA in order to get in?
What do they look for overall and does minority status have a say in acceptance??</p>
<p>lol way to post this on every thread :p</p>
<p>Was the 2.8 someone you know personally, or is it just a rumor you heard in school? Regardless, the difficulty of acceptance varies from school to school. The College of Arts and Sciences (CAS) and Stern School of Business are the most difficult to get into GPA/SAT wise. Tisch School of Arts, Gallatin School of Individualized Study, SCPS, and to a lesser extent, Steinhardt, are slightly easier to get into. The average GPA and SAT are right on the website:</p>
<p>Average High School GPA: 3.63
SAT Score Range (middle 50%): 1300 - 1440
ACT Score Range (middle 50%):29 - 31
Ranked in Top 10% of High School Class: 72.3% </p>
<p>I’m guessing the 2.8 was a Tisch minority student with wealthy alumni donor parents. 
Admission to Tisch is often based on audition or portfolio. Sometimes students who didn’t excel too much academically, but are extraordinarily talented in the arts are accepted. Although even Tisch applicants generally have at least 3.2 or so. </p>
<p>Overall they’re looking for someone intelligent and well-rounded. A 3.6+ GPA,</p>
<p>I remember going to an overnight at an Ivy League and they mentioned that students with a 900 SAT scores having being admitted before. But again, these are some serious special cases; if a student comes from a high school where the average SAT score is 900 and they score a 1200, they are considered exceptional given their learning environment. Schools just want to see if you are up to par to their standards and stuff like the aforementioned scenario shows just that the kid was very bright but not in necessarily the most stimulating of environments.</p>
<p>Realize too that college admissions IS a business. Schools want to look good. And the first thing people ask when applying to schools are average SAT scores and GPA. So obviously it’d be easier to get into a tier 1 school with less than awesome SAT scores.</p>
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<p>OUCH…
Not very funny…</p>
<p>There are kids with really low GPAs who get into the top schools but the cases are very very rare. </p>
<p>I going to guess that it was admission to a less competitive school or portfolio based(Tisch) and the individual must have had one hell of a hook.</p>
<p>Also, why did you need to post this 6 more times in other threads?</p>
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Well, it was meant as a joke, but it’s not unrealistic or insulting. 2.8 is a low GPA by NYU standards. As I mentioned, some schools like Tisch care less about GPA and more about audition or portfolio. Things like being a URM and legacy are also “hooks”. I’m guessing anyone who got into NYU with a 2.8 must have some outstanding hooks and probably an amazing portfolio or audition to make up for low grades. Nothing to ouch about.</p>
<p>just realized that who ever is posting is definitely a ■■■■■.</p>
<p>Lawlz, my grammar is atrocious in my last post here. Apologies. It’s been a long week of finals.</p>
<p>p.s. is being a minority even that much of a ‘hook’ any NYU?</p>
<p>Actually, you only need a 1.0 and 900 SAT score, but only if you’re a minority. Otherwise, you need a 4.0 and 2400.</p>
<p>Hmm I doubt being a minority is a big hook at NYU since we’re a pretty diverse group. I’m guessing only Native Americans would have the advantage of a big “hook”. Being Black/Hispanic is probably only a slight boost. I think it’s more of an advantage in other schools where it’s not as ethnically diverse.</p>
<p>“Actually, you only need a 1.0 and 900 SAT score, but only if you’re a minority. Otherwise, you need a 4.0 and 2400.”</p>
<p>^ Haha I agree. And if you’re asian, you need a 5.0 and a 2500. </p>
<p>And jeez why are people always bagging on Tisch? Most of us do have a 3.5+ and avg 1350. It’s just that once you’re within the avg stats, it’s pretty much all resting on your portfolio/audition. And Gallatin stats are definitely better if not the same as CAS’s. And Steinhardt is one of the easiest schools at NYU. </p>
<p>There is a thing called HEOP, for low-income minority NY state students. They usually have low SATs but good GPAs. I dunno, I can’t explain it. Anything’s possible. Just if you have a 2.8, don’t bank on getting into NYU.</p>
<p>Adding on to BimaChris - HEOP is a program for low-income family who have a SAT range from 1000-1250(CR+M). Also you have to have a GPA of at least 3.0 or higher. So even that person you talked about couldn’t get into the HEOP program because his GPA is too low. There is only 250 spots in NYU HEOP so they mostly take the students with the highest GPA for the program leaving the rest for other private schools and suny schools.</p>
<p>So I doubt it was HEOP. It could have been one of those rare cases, like someone mention above, that they had outstanding talent that they accepted them not caring about the grade.</p>
<p>Who knows.</p>
<p>Someone with a 2.8 can also get into Harvard if they have the right connections. For the average person trying to get into NYU with no hooks, it is difficult.</p>
<p>aka George Bush.</p>
<p>“Actually, you only need a 1.0 and 900 SAT score, but only if you’re a minority. Otherwise, you need a 4.0 and 2400.”</p>
<p>Hopefully that is sarcasm. If that isn’t, then there is a great deal of ignorance from a few posters here. Realize that the “URMs” who do get in are at the top of their class, and often doing the best they can from there area. Colleges look for diversity, and so being a URM is not a full foot in, nor would I consider it a factor which can make or break an admissions decision.</p>
<p>Anyone who claims otherwise is obviously upset that they didn’t get admitted in, and are simply jealous of the “URMs” who got in because of their actual desire to attend. If you don’t have legit reasons in attending a college, or if you simply have the mind set where you believe things are simply “handed down” to a person because of ethnic class, then you need to reassess your personality, and interests as it won’t get you far in life with that mentality.</p>
<p>Perhaps try to see things from other directions, other perspectives. Realize that not everyone is fortunate. Some people are born in lower economic conditions and have to overcome alot more than others. There is no excuse to “bash” or call another group inferior. I know it wasn’t blatantly stated, but the level of ignorance from various statements so far are utterly ridiculous. </p>
<p>As for this thread’s main topic- I believe it depends on a variety of things. Obviously the lower GPA will strongly make that person less competitive in comparison to the various 4.0s who apply. Having strong test scores, great leadership positions, and an awesome essay which meets the characteristics of what a college is looking for can also increase a person’s chances despite the GPA. I know if I were an admissions officer I would admit the person who had a 2.9 with volunteer positions, great test scores, and actually tried their best in high school and genuinely wants to go to the college to learn rather than someone who has a 4.0, great test scores, leadership positions “on paper”, who simply wants to go because of prestige reasons. Just my two cents. ;)</p>
<p><em>Puts on anti-flame suit to prepare for defense on any people who embody the false ideology and misconceptions regarding URMs in college admissions</em>:P</p>
<p>~ Theos</p>
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<p>However, how would you know that? How would you distinguish between real leadership, and leadership positions “on paper”, in a timely fashion no less? For the most part, regardless of their desire/attitude, test scores and volunteer positions, a 2.8 doesn’t get into a good university instead of a 4.0 regardless of the 4.0’s ulterior motives. The only exceptions would be if the student is an outstanding athlete (although I don’t know how much NYU values that), or the student has some exceptional music/theatre talent and is applying to Tisch or the children of a huge donor. There are not a lot of people who can’t get into NYU if their family donated a building or two.<br>
Also, high standardized test scores coupled with low GPA doesn’t always look good, as adcom may see the student as a person who is lazy and doesn’t try on a day to day basis, and only cram for tests.</p>
<p>Moosey, it’s easy to distinguish the difference between a real leader and a leader on paper. A real leader volunteers, and has actually done something with their position. Projects, etc. A leader on paper just holds various positions to look “good”. As for the high test scores with low GPA, I was thinking more so about an upward trend. Colleges place a huge emphasis on that, and someone with a 1.0 freshmen year, 2.0ish sophmore year, and high Junior and Senior GPAs could easily end up with a low cumulative GPA due to messing up earlier and getting their act together later in High school. Yes it would be alot more difficult for a person to get in with these stats, and ideally the odds are against them but there is a higher possibility if their application has the desired characteristics. </p>
<p>~ Theos</p>
<p>Some of you are being ridiculous…no one is disparaging HEOP, URMs, Tisch, LSP, Gallatin, Steinhardt or SCPS students. The OP asked what kind of grades/SAT scores one needs to get into NYU and we posted the average GPA/SAT or whatever and addressed that it’s unusual for a 2.8 student to get in, but possible. </p>
<p>Being a legacy or URM are considered “hooks” in admissions. No one said it’s easy for them to get in, simply that it’s a hook. Now people are getting upset and defending URMs as if anyone insulted them in the first place…just relax. </p>
<p>Don’t take admissions too seriously, it’s not that in-depth like they’re evaluating your life. NYU is massive and gets more applications than any other private school. If you have decent grades, good test scores, some EC’s, show your personality, passions or motivations in an essay, audition or portfolio, you’re good to go. I bet applications get reviewed for all of 15 mins or so.</p>
<p>Or, just get adopted by the Tisch family. They basically control NYU. :p</p>
<p>people who hope for the lowest are better off playing lottery.</p>
<p>when the average scores are
Average High School GPA: 3.63
SAT Score Range (middle 50%): 1300 - 1440
ACT Score Range (middle 50%):29 - 31
Ranked in Top 10% of High School Class: 72.3% </p>
<p>if you are below those stats chances of you getting in aren’t that great.</p>
<p>if you have a 2.8 and hope to get in. chances are, you won’t</p>
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<p>alex2012, NYU doesn’t review applications for 15 minutes. it takes 4 long steps. application reviews can take up to 1-2months per application. it depends on the candidate. Obviously if someone has terrific grades, it will only take 1 review and 1 overview by the dean. Otherwise applications are carefully considered. Each poor decision made by admissions officers can potentially cost the school up to 120k and federal grants</p>
<p>@Theos Rizos</p>
<p>I don’t even know how to respond to the fact that you even entertained the idea that I was being serious, particularly in light of all the other comments I have made in this forum.</p>