How Much Do You think You Need to Retire? What Age Will You/Spouse Retire? General Retirement Issues (Part 2)

It sounds like they want to vent, but it is still their issue to resolve.

I take the position that people are free to spend their money as they choose (as long as it is legal and not harming others). It is only my business if someone is spending MY money.

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And DH and one sibling are now in the position to deal w their other sibling, who is over 70, working part time, second parent has died, and left them to split parent’s house that sibling (and two more generations of their branch) are living in. All had been being supported (mostly) by parent’s income. Minimal savings, SS income. Sibling needs proceeds from house to afford to move. GChild will graduate in 2025 with plans of college.

This is where that path leads!

Thanks for this! I will definitely try it soon. On Cyber Monday I bought a year’s everything subscription for daughter and s-i-l for $50.

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Maybe it’s just me and maybe it’s because I live in New England, but the people I know don’t discuss the details of their personal finances, even people who are close friends. I have three close friends (more than 25 years) and I couldn’t tell you the details of their finances, except I think they’re doing well. I’m also sure if one of them were facing financial disaster, she’d tell us. Otherwise, personal finances aren’t something we discuss. We do talk about our kids, because that’s what drew us together. Our three daughters became friends in grade school. The kids (now in their 30s) are still friends and so are the moms.

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I had the same offer last fall. I planned to cancel my subscription a week before it expired. I decided to try cancelling online instead by phone and discovered I could have a full subscription for $4 a month. I put a note in my calendar to remember to cancel before the end of the year. I’ve been surprised in the past when the first indication of a subscription promo ending was my credit card being charged the full rate.

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We give our kids fairly substantial gifts of money from time to time, but we view it as an early inheritance. There are no strings on how they use it. That money is far more useful to them now than it will be in 20-30 years.

DD is still on our cell phone plan, but she’s too lazy to switch and we’re too lazy to make her, lol. Other than than, we don’t cover any of their expenses.

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Yes, the wife seems to be taking the ‘financial strain’ while the husband is as she said “a softie”. I think he was listening some to our conversation - he was talking to another person on and off, but was sitting right next to me.

I was at $28 for 4 weeks and going through cancellation online automatically gave me an offer for $14. It’s interesting how they are charging such different prices.

I’m not sure why anyone would care to take their kids off their cell phone plan, if its like ours its only $10 per month more per line - they would each have to pay substantially more than that for their own account. They have paid for their own physical phone upgrades, we only cover their line. They can buy us a Chickfila sandwich once a month and that covers their cost plus change left over.

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Our S is also on our cell plan. It is a very small monthly charge, and we don’t care. He does transfer money to our bank account every so often, but I have no clue whether or not it covers the cost. We babysit his sister’s child, which involves some expenses on our end 
 so I would feel pretty bad about pushing him to pay us such a small amount.

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Because it’s $10 a month more. My kid is an adult with an income. He can pay his own bills whatever the amount. (No judgement, that’s just the way we roll.)

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A lot of houses around here, including mine, have 3-5 bedrooms. A lot of them belong to empty nesters. It’s a no brainer to let your adult kids live with you for free/cheap.

PS. Yes, this is tongue in cheek.

Have you considered that it might be a little “braggy” to be telling this woman how “well” your kids are doing or the “great advice you gave them” when she’s sharing that hers isn’t doing quite so well?
Your “new activity group friend” obviously, but maybe talking about all this financial stuff early in your relationship isn’t appropriate? Not everyone wants to discuss their finances or wants a lot of financial or family relationship advice from people they barely know.

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That $14 for 4 weeks is $182/year.

These ‘special offers’ are to help retain people.

My kids are doing very well. They have great jobs and own their homes, don’t require any help from their families. We won the parenting lottery.

I don’t like to brag too much even though I’m so proud of my kids and how they’ve become successful adults.

Some of the people IRL are sad because my kids moved away after college. I don’t get to watch my grandchildren. I don’t get to help the kids. They want to help and they want to be their grandchildren’s caretakers. Their bragging is what they’ve given their children. They wouldn’t want to be us.

Everyone is different.

Our phone plans are separate now. We went with t-mobile. They wanted to stay with Verizon. They are on plans now with their SO’s. I save $100+ a month over what Verizon was going to cost me.

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This lady was very nice, and expressed her concerns about their retirement and other things like she is wrapping up with her dad’s home (she had him living with her/her DH), and discussed what she needs to do there. I just described what we did with the kids’ discussions early. Her children took a little longer to find their careers, but they did fine with that. We didn’t share depths of financials, and they (like us) had participated in the state prepayment of college tuition. Their children were about the same ages as ours, and with our discussion, she clearly was happy to have me share information. I didn’t pry.

On line is w/o face to face interactions. I am not a ‘braggy’ person. We could not financially have our DDs not be able to ‘fly’ when they had with everything we provided for them. And indeed they are flying. This lady’s kids (the son is fine), they have provided fine for the daughter, but she is still draining monthly money from them. In many ways it was financially very superficial.

Our conversation was gradual. She offered up a lot of information w/o me asking.

I just used this as an example of how some young adults will have parents continue to pay for things that the adult professional can manage to pay for themselves.

The homes they ‘bought’ for their children, actually I believe it was enough of a down payment so the son and daughter could both easily keep up with their home payments. Those were purchased at a time when interest rates were lower than they are now.

Neither of my DDs owns a home. So certainly not ‘braggy’.

Sometimes people will talk to others that are not ‘close friends’ or family members (the parents’ own brothers/sisters/cousins) because they don’t want this kind of discussion to circulate among other friends or family.

Many of my friends long for GKids, and some people (like us) have a young adult that has married and have a number of grand-children w/o any expectation of Gkids this soon. That was just how DD was, and she married a fella 4 years older than her.

DH and I also now are on T-Mobile, after originally being in Verizon. DD1/SIL actually have a 4 person plan with his parents, mutual benefit. DD2 has been on her own plan once she found one she wanted - she also has just about the latest Apple Phone as well. DH and I are fine with ‘lesser’ phones.

We have a lot of friends with successful kids, and we are very happy for them.

I am actually glad DDs live elsewhere, because they get out of the ‘bubble’ of our area, and now are in different states.

Our plan was substantially more - and now that we are with T-Mobile our monthly total for the 2 of us is about $66/month.

I am on the receiving end of a lot of, “pity,” because our adult ds lives across the country from us. “I could never go so long without seeing my kids.”

Okay

There is never a lack of judgey-ness in society.

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I find a lot of “complaining” that their children are costing them so much is sometimes code for I love my children so much I’m willing to sacrifice my happiness for theirs.

Not to say that doing things for your kids or moving near the grandchildren isn’t a good choice. But that it’s an individual decision. Not something that is to be judged. Either way.

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