How to contact a college officer regarding course plan?

<p>Hey everyone,
I am a high school senior who wants to take a rigorous course plan, resulting in multiple majors/degrees. I want to contact a college officer with a sample schedule to ask about both the feasibility of the 4-year-schedule and also whether it will satisfy the degree requirements. Who should I direct this kind of inquiry to?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>I don’t know for sure, but I will say flat out here that no one at Maryland will hold your hand. Very few advisors know the requirements for majors or degrees in different schools. You are in charge of knowing the degree requirements. You’re also required to know if they change and whether or not you will be grandfathered in if they do.</p>

<p>As far as feasibility, no one knows you better than you. Don’t go over like 16 credits first semester though. 17 if you have more than one one credit seminar. (NOT LAB.) You’ll end up being overwhelmed, but not knowing it quickly enough to adjust your schedule in time. </p>

<p>I don’t know of anyone who would know about so many different requirements though. And if they do, they probably don’t know the feasibility of your schedule.</p>

<p>I am not particularly worried about going 16 credits (in fact, I have to if I want to complete this in four years) as I have taken a simmiliar course load during HS (7 APs). Besides most of those classes are easy, and those that are’nt (eg Multivariable Calc) I have already taken, so it should be easier. </p>

<p>Also, while I know the individual degree requiements, I know that there are weird rules regarding multiple majors. What is meant, for instance, when it is said that only 18 credits can be counted towards both majors (I think I read that somewhere.)</p>

<p>What you may not be taking into account, and what may cause problems for you, is that many departments of many universities don’t teach every course, especially upper-level ones, every semester.</p>

<p>If a department isn’t offering what you plan to take when you plan to take it, you’re in a bind.</p>

<p>It’s just not practical to plan your entire program of “multiple majors/degrees” while you’re a senior in high school. Nobody has enough information now to enable you to make a realistic plan.</p>

<p>Of course, I’ve considered that already.
It’s just that I think making hypothetical schedules is important in comparing universities…</p>

<p>The short answer, NO, there is no college officer that is going to look over your sample schedule. Here’s why…YOU HAVE YET TO BE ACCEPTED! And even if UMDCP is your safety, you still don’t know if you will be in Honors, Gemstone or Scholars. All of these programs have seminars too!</p>

<p>Next, I find it a little pompous to say my college load will be easier than HS. Try taking Econ with 300 people and your TA is a foreign student that has a thick accent, it is not as easy as you may believe. Smith Business is not world reknown (top 20 school in the world according to USNWR) because it is easier than HS.</p>

<p>Another reason colleges don’t want you to overdue a course load is because statistically these students have a high drop out rate since they never have the time to socialize. College is not just about books and theories, it is the 1st true chance to become you, the person. There are so many activities that will be available to you that doing a double load can be frustrating the 1st yr. You are learning a new time mgmt program. You can say right now it is no problem, I can handle it, only to find out by mid-terms that you are pulling all C’s and in jeopardy of losing your scholarship because you were being a kid and going to football games or hanging out in a dorm Friday night. Let me tell you they don’t joke about it when they say 3.2+. Our DS overloaded one semester because he is in Scholars (1 credit), ROTC (1 credit), took 17 credits on top of that, plus joined a military fraternity. This caused him a 3.1992 gpa, and with that a letter telling him he was now on probation for his scholarship.</p>

<p>Being ambitious is one thing, but not if you are being rigid. To compare college schedules is not something I would rec on deciding where to go. Like Sikorsky said, sometimes, actually many times a class is only taught 1x a yr. You maybe able to predict your freshman yr, but once you get to the sophomore yr and you need XYZ class, but it booked out what will you do then? Will you say, Oh Crap, I should have gone to the other college because I would be able to have had their ABC class?</p>

<p>P.S. you also forgot to factor in you will take placement tests, and thus, you can’t know at this point what classes you will or will not take in certain areas…i.e. English and Math. You can assume, but we all know what the word assume means.</p>

<p>Placement tests? I already took 10 AP’s (all 5’s) and an exemption exam for Object oriented programming II (which I passed - it was required for advanced topics in computer science)
As for “overduing” ( >.> ) a course load, with classes like the freshman fellows into to business class, those 3 credits really aren’t difficult. They’re basically three credits for getting to know each other/socializing. It may be structured socializing, but it’s socializing nonetheless.</p>

<p>Also, I don’t usually need a great prof, as I’ve self studied a good deal. Of course, a good teacher always makes a course better and is appreciated =)</p>

<p>Btw, where did you get top 20 in the world? I don’t believe it’s top 20 in the U.S (I think the ranking is like 30-35 ish)… but I’d like to see that ranking, quite interesting.</p>

<p>And finally, (sorry for all of these disorganized responses), I’m not being rigid; I merely want to see if it’s even possible to have the <em>course</em> of study that I want, not necessarily those specific classes.</p>

<p>Anyway, thanks for your opinion.</p>

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<p>Philip School of Journalism is also ranked very high, and has 7 Pulitzer Prize winners on faculty.
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<p>I could keep the list going on and on, with their rankings.</p>

<p>Overall UMD is ranked consistently in the top 20 public universities in the nation. I believe this yr it is tied at 15 with Penn State.

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<p>You may place out due to AP tests, like our DS, but he still had to take placement tests to determine which English class he placed into at UMDCP because English is required. I think you are misunderstanding how the AP system works. Yes, you go in with these credits, but they don’t necessarily count towards your degree, otherwise everyone who took APs could graduate in 3 yrs and not 4. How it works is they say, we give you credit for them, but you still need to take X amt of English classes or math classes HERE. You don’t get to just not take English, you just take a higher level of English…thus, that’s why they make you take their placement tests for certain subjects. Our DS had APs for USH, EURO, GOVT, all of them transferred in, but because of his major, it just meant he had more freedom in class choices. Same with English and Math.</p>

<p>I don’t know about freshman fellows, but I can tell you that for Scholars, you are required to write papers, and do an internship with at least 20 hrs per week for an entire semester, AND then you still must write a 10 page paper on the internship. For Gemstone you must do a team project to present like a mini-thesis. So I don’t know where you believe that freshman fellows is akin to all of the programs as a mandatory socialization 3 credit hour. I am assuming that by getting 5’s on all 10 of your APs, you would be a likely candidate for Honors. However, since you have not given actual gpa stats, I can’t make that assumption. </p>

<p>Additionally, you do understand how credit hours work, correct? 21 credit hours means 21 class hours per week. Sounds like no biggie, but just wait until you now have those 7 classes that all want a 15 page paper due the same week, or when you have 7 classes, that count your mid-term and final as 70% of your grade, and you got a 70 on 3 of them. Just imagine the pressure that ratchets up when now you need basically a 100 on 3 of them to maintain your scholarship. Or if you are in scholars and must commute into DC or to Goddard for 20 hours a week(to commute, that really means 30 hrs a week), plus your 21 credit course load. Life will not be pretty…and all at the same time of carrying that 3.2 gpa! This leaves Johnny or Janie a very dull child who never experienced college, but the inside of a classroom.</p>

<p>I think you need to understand that being top of your hs class doesn’t mean it will be a cake walk at UMD. This fallacy is what causes great disconcernation to many students when they get there. All of the sudden the valedictorian with a perfect hs gpa, that took every AP, lands up in tears because they got a C on their blue book. Many times because profs don’t give tests for several weeks, they could find themselves freaking out because now they are 1/2 way through the semester and are mathematically working out what they now need to pull with the few remaining grades available to them.</p>

<p>As for the course of study you want, it is either in their handbook or it isn’t. It is a no brainer. When you get accepted and matriculate, at orientation they will sit down with you and plot out your course load for the next four yrs. </p>

<p>If you want UMDCP to see you as a student and not a number, than I suggest you don’t go there. UMDCP is a large university, it is not a small private one. CAVEAT: the reason Scholars, Gemstone and Honors have become so successful is due to the fact that being in these programs, students feel they are not a number, but still get the perks of a big university.</p>

<p>Finally, you have yet to post what your intended major is and which school at UMDCP you are applying to, which also places a part in the equation.</p>

<p>Euro, you give the impression that you already have exactly the answers you want anyway. Why ask?</p>

<p>I don’t - what I want to know is if my sample schedule satisfies multiple major requirements. I know that it satisfies each major separately, but I know that there are weird rules regarding multiple majors…</p>

<p>Also, bulletandpima: I want to (yes it sounds scary) triple major in Mathematics (Statistics), Computer Science, and Finance.</p>

<p>It’s not so bad because they share quite a few subjects in the requirements, so I’m taking on average 18 credits per semester.</p>

<p>And what? You still have to take English (not professional writing?) Are you sure??? Because the core requirement is exempt with a 5 on the AP…</p>

<p>And finally, I never said I was particularly interested in Honors/Scholars… :confused: (Freshman Fellows is for [almost] all Smith Students that come in as freshmen)</p>

<p>Also, pima:</p>

<p>White Male From Maryland
SAT I : 790 CR, 760 M, 710 W (Retaking in the fall… I am sure I can get at least my math score to 800.)
SAT II: 800 Math II, 790 Physics, 750 World History
AP Scholar with currently all 5’s on the 10 AP Tests I have taken.
Unweighted GPA 3.6 (yeah, ok, this sucks. I was young, stupid, and… lazy), Weighted 4.35
260 Service Hours, Will Probably Get Up To 300 By The Time I apply.
EC[s Include Captain/Founder Economics Challenge Team, Vice President Of Robotics Club, Co-Captain Of The Math Team.
I was an AIME Participant, Have won numerous programming competitions, and am also a national semifinalist for the Physics Olympiad. I also got second place regionally for physics Bowl. Quite a few other awards.</p>

<p>Finally, I have done a summer internship at an IT firm, and next year as part of the Superintendent Student Leadership Program, will be interning at Morgan Stanley Smith Barney.</p>

<p>The problem is they may share a few subjects in requirements, but then it comes down to when you move up to the upperclassman level where they don’t share electives. </p>

<p>Honestly, I think trying to triple major doesn’t sound scary. I think it sounds optimistic, but UNREALISTIC. One class that is booked out, and you pushed yourself for what? </p>

<p>As I have said, college is more than books it is life experience too. There are studies that have been published regarding the most successful CEO’s in the US. The common factor they had in their success rate, was not the amount of degrees, it was actually their people skills…something you won’t have if you spend your entire life in the books.</p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong, I believe in education, but as a parent who has had many friends with kids that couldn’t make the adjustment to college life, they always seemed to have 1 thing in common, but from opposite sides of the spectrum. SOCIAL ADJUSTMENT
They either got to college and kept their noses in the books, never make any real friendships their freshman yr, OR they had too much fun making friends. Our DS’s roommate as a freshman was IS, he was dual major plus doing he 5 yr Masters program, while in Scholars to boot. When Feb., rolled around and everyone was placing their names into the lottery for dorms, he had nobody to go in with. He decided to move back home and commute. It was very sad, but the fact is he lost a large chunk of college experience because he was like you, over ambitious. </p>

<p>Just something to think about.</p>

<p>OBTW for the finance world, what they really care about for promotions is post grad degrees. Having a triple major will probably get you in the door, but you still need the MBA. </p>

<p>I think you need to take a breather from your demanding schedule, and experience life…trust me, with a blink of an eye you will be 40 and wondering where did it all go!</p>

<p>Heck, I’m starting to wonder where 40 went…</p>

<p>I want to do the triple major for the fun mostly - I just like those subjects. And I think that I’ll still be able to have at least a decent social life (I’m not much of a partier, really). However, I probably want to pursue an MFE for masters, and for that, a double major (or just one technical major, which I don’t want to do) is pretty much necessary.
Besides, I have some decent leeway with classes; I can move them around time-wise, I can switch a class or too… however, my question is… do I even get a triple major with my class schedule? Considering the individual degree requirements, I do, but I know that there are tricky rules regarding counting a class towards two degrees. That was what my original question was about :S</p>

<p>I would post an excel file here, but CC doesn’t do that :3</p>

<p>lol @ sikorsky. :P</p>

<p>A triple major is not going to get you in over people with an MBA, so forget that.
Also, I don’t know anyone doing a triple, but I know people with a double major plus a minor and every single one of them is spending a fifth year here, when most people who spend five years here leave with a masters. No scholarship will cover a fifth year. </p>

<p>You’re seem very sure of what you want, which you think is good, and to some extent it is. But you’re what? Seventeen? Sixteen even? I’ll admit I’m not much older. But in the two years since I was in your position, I’ve changed a lot, I have more of an idea of how the world works, and more importantly here, I know how college works. </p>

<p>You need to be open to change. I’m on my third major. This isn’t indecision. I still have the same career in mind, I’ve just figured out how I want to get there that’s best for me.</p>

<p>I thought I’d be fine with the course load once I got to college, but first semester I ended up with a C- in my major subject and a 3.0 overall. Truth is, I never needed to work in high school. Now, I do, and it took me some time to realize it. So I revamped everything for second semester. I now had a second degree that would require about 18-20 credits a semester with a 16 credit semester at the end and a 14 credit load for MCAT semester. Then, a week before second semester, the guy a lenscrafter took a picture of the inside of my eye, then told me I might have a brain tumor and sent me to an optometrist, who sent me for an MRI and that night I was inpatient at Columbia Presbyterian hospital. I left two days before I had to move in for spring semester, not with a brain tumor, thankfully, but possibly going blind. The medication they had me on, plus another condition I had left me barely able to function. Just the walks to classes alone where enough to wipe me out.I couldn’t eat. I dropped down to 14 credits and seriously considered either taking a leave of absence or transferring closer to home. But I stuck it out, dropped my original major so that now I had gone from Neuro-Phys to a laughable English major (at least among my Gemstone friends). But I finished second semester with a 3.5, therefore allowing me to stay in school. (I’m on full ride and can’t afford it otherwise) I was happy with my classes, pretty healthy, and had made possibly the best friends I’ll ever have in my life. They helped me get through it.</p>

<p>That was longer than i meant for it to be, but I wanted to bring up a few points. 1) Sometimes there are better ways to reach a goal that you’re just not seeing. (For example, I know have a better chance of getting to medical school as a non-bio major. Every doctor who knows I’m an english major has been impressed because they say that most young doctors now are not well rounded and have zero social/emotional skills. And above all I enjoy studying English) 2) Being too rigid and lofty about your goals off the bat will cause you to crumble if something unexpected happens. 3) Something unexpected will happen. 4) Your friends are more important than anything in college. They become your family. With a triple major you will not have them.</p>

<p>Let’s do some quick math if that doesn’t work for you:
You need: 30 CORE Credits. With all your AP classes, let’s assume you got out of 20 of them. 10 CORE credits, plus junior english and advanced studies. Luckily your triple major gets rid of advanced studies. So you have 13 credits to deal with. (But remember this is not necessarily the case because I don’t know what you test out of)</p>

<p>First semester you also have UNIV100 and that seminar you were talking about 4 credits, but UNIV100 has essays. </p>

<p>17 credits. </p>

<p>For a math major you need about (quick math from the site): about 64 credits
Finance seems to be about: 80 credits
Comp sci is about 60.
204 credits–32 overlap allowed (best case scenario, it may only be 18)= 172</p>

<p>172+the 17 from before is 189 *****ing credits.</p>

<p>You have 189 credits over eight semesters= 23 or 24 credits a semester. Not actually allowed.
So lets stay for a fifth year: 19 credits a semester.
Wait, you have no time for extracurriculars of any type! No one will hire you because you’ve never worked with people! Oh and lets throw in an internship! Six years.
Now you’re finally down to 16 credits a semester, a manageable load. Don’t take a single wrong class though. You better hope everything is available exactly when you need to take it.
So now you’re about 24 when you finish school and about 150,000 dollars poorer. You know what other people have when they don’t enter the business world until 24? …an MBA.</p>

<p>You have to be kidding me.</p>

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<p>UM…is going to football games or basketball games your definition of partying? Granted football games are typically on a Sat., BUT, if you want to go to the really great basketball games (Duke, UNC) you need to gain points. How do you do it? You go to all of the crappy games prior. That is the UMDCP basketball system, thus, Thursday night you have a choice go and “party” with your friends for the UMD game against Wake Forest or stay in the dorm and study!</p>

<p>Maybe you have the wrong idea of UMD for partying! Yes, there is Rushing like every other college in the US, YES, Easton throws a lot of dorm parties, but many of the students consider partying, hanging out playing Xbox and ordering wings from Ratsies on a Tuesday night. I cannot tell you how many times our DS goes into DC on weekends, but I do know it is enough times they he has a Smart Pass card and can tell you what is on the menu at Ben’s Chili or what line will take you to Chinatown or Adam’s. Is that partying in your opinion?</p>

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<p>This is what people are trying to drill into you. The profs change, schedules change. Just because UMDCP has the schedule that worked out for you this fall, does not mean they will have it come next Sept. Additionally, classes book out, you can plan this schedule for all of these requirements only to find out that the 1 10 a.m. class you needed is now at 11 a.m. because of the prof’s choice and that conflicts with the other class…can we all say snowball downhill?</p>

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<p>This is what I mean when I stated kids who walk in that never had to work for a grade, suddenly find themselves in a topsy turvy world. How do they go home for Turkey Day, and say: Mom, Dad, I need to tell you this…</p>

<p>Their emotional fears/concerns now play into the system.</p>

<p>Finally, I do suspect with your stats you should be Honors/Gemstone, and at least a BK candidate. Are you willing to say, triple major is going to impress job recruiters over the student who graduated with 1 degree and a core emphasis that was a BK Honors student?</p>

<p>My MBA has a core emphasis in HR. I will tell you, if you think it will, you are wrong! I would take the Honors candidate with a core emphasis because the program demands more, UMDCP also is saying the Honors/Gemstone/Scholars program grad was the top of our admission class when they entered 4 yrs ago, and the majority of them graduated as MERIT SCHOLARSHIP recipients. Big picture. </p>

<p>You will be interning for Morgan Stanley next summer…how did you get it? Was it because you took 10 APs, or was it because you were well balanced with the APs and the EC’s. </p>

<p>The adage quantity is not quality also applies to college degrees regarding employment recruitment. 3 degrees, will not make you more marketable than the student with 1 in Honors that specialized in 1 field.</p>

<p>A) ginab, you are wrong with the credits. Each AP test of mine basically covers a CORE class. I have exactly two CORES that are not covered by exemption… (a social history and a theory of art, if you are wondering which ones.)
B) I’m not doing this for job recruitment! Besides, I’m planning to do an MFE (not an MBA) - which is usually done right after undergrad. I am doing this for my own personal fun, and also a little bit for the MFE, which requires a technical background.
C) When I mean my classes are flexible, I mean instead of taking class A I can take class B, or instead of taking class A now I can take class C and take class A later.
D) I will not watch too many Terp games. :S It’s just not my thing. The only sport I actually like watching is soccer - I might go see some of that.
E) I can GUARANTEE that I will not get anything lower than a 3.2. Honestly, I’d be suprised if I got something under a 3.5. I have done actual college classes. I have even self-studied them. It’s really not <em>that</em> hard, if you change your mentality a bit…
F) Jesus christ Pima you wrote an essay there xD</p>

<p>Enough Euro. Multiple times posters have tried to give you the “get a clue” regarding your “I shall not fail” attitude. Instead of respecting their experience and advice, you keep on with your “I am better” attitude.</p>

<p>Sorry, but YOU AREN’T until you post your 1st semester grades at UMD. Respect them, and their life experience.</p>

<p>This forum has always been based on opinions and respect, you have no problem telling UMD parents and students you know better when it comes to college life. </p>

<p>You wanted an answer, and unfortunately for you, no poster here is supporting your position. Heck even sikorsky told you in post#9, "Euro, you give the impression that you already have exactly the answers you want anyway. Why ask? "</p>

<p>You then go on to tell Gina … a UMD student she is wrong regarding class credits…you a HS student not at UMD is telling a UMD student she is wrong? WOW!</p>

<p>I love this one…I’m not doing this for job recruitment! Besides, I’m planning to do an MFE (not an MBA) - which is usually done right after undergrad. I am doing this for my own personal fun, and also a little bit for the MFE, which requires a technical background.…can your parents adopt my children where they can afford to throw tens of thousands of dollars away for PERSONAL FUN? </p>

<p>Again if you can’t see the pompous attitude of your post I can’t help you. There are posters here trying to figure out how to rub 2 dimes together to pay for UMD, and you say PERSONAL FUN!</p>

<p>I will not watch too many Terp games. :S It’s just not my thing. The only sport I actually like watching is soccer - I might go see some of that Enough said. NO OFFENSE TO SOCCER, just the fact that Euro doesn’t get UMD sports and the impact within the school…surprising as a MD resident he missed the big hoopla regarding the MD V Duke game.</p>

<p>I can GUARANTEE that I will not get anything lower than a 3.2. Honestly, I’d be suprised if I got something under a 3.5. I have done actual college classes. I have even self-studied them. It’s really not <em>that</em> hard, if you change your mentality a bit… Riddle me this joker, then why at 17 turning 18 did you not graduate at 16 because of your intelligence.</p>

<p>You are really being past the point of offensive for someone who has never walked the walk. </p>

<p>I have bitten my tongue, but enough is enough. Don’t ask for advice, but argue when it is given. Worse yet, insult people who have walked in the shoes before you! OM Flipping Lord, I suspect your are a male student because of the size of Kahunas you have.</p>

<p>Last, but not least, your social skills are lacking, a mature person would never say Jesus christ because it could be seen as personally offensive due to religious reasons…OBTW I am Catholic, and by saying that, it was OFFENSIVE…we never say God or Jesus’s name in VAIN! YOU DID!</p>

<p>It’s also offensive to Jews because they don’t believe in Jesus. Welcome to the CORPORATE WORLD, you just officially offended Christians and Jews! How does that work when you are in a corporate meeting with a client and say JC without knowing that the client is a Mormon, a Catholic, a Jew, or a Muslim?</p>

<p>I am not insulting anyone… -_-
Let’s break this down by parts, shall we?

Wait, didn’t you tell me not to overload, or I WOULDN’T HAVE TIME FOR ANY FUN??? HMMMMM… hypocrite much?
Besides, way to ignore the whole part about the MFE.</p>

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Sorry, pima, I’m 16. You lose.</p>

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WHOA I can use google search: [Transfer</a> Credit Center | Advanced Placement Exams (AP)](<a href=“http://www.tce.umd.edu/apchart.html]Transfer”>http://www.tce.umd.edu/apchart.html) WOW :O</p>

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<p>Now, until this post (I am responding like with like, so to speak) what have I done that is so offensive? I have even thanked you for your opinions, but I guess that just makes me a dick who thinks he’s so good. Why, he think he can handle 18 credits? Why, no one can. The policy that allows you to do this is there FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. Whatsoever.</p>

<p>Jesus christ, pima. I’ve already had a harder HS schedule then most people recommended, and I’m doing OK. Are you omniscient? Do you KNOW that I can’t handle college coursework? -__-</p>

<p>Sorry if I offended you Pima, but most people do not find that offensive. However, I found your generalization about Jews offensive. Guess why? >.<
btw, check out GS’s (that’s Goldman Sach’s for the unenlightened) emails (quite a few have been released in public due to the curse word think.) “Jesus christ” is on the LOW LOW LOW end of their “offensiveness” scale.</p>

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Yep, until your boss is a devout Christian who finds saying JC’s name in vain offensive. Guess what…I could be your boss, in my home JC’s name could never be said in that manner nor G’s name. You just loss points as a manager for having to use those two names as a way to describe your anger!</p>

<p>FWIW, I am a Catholic who supports divorce, abortion and homosexual marriages, so don’t try to think I am off the rails conservative. I am a Christian who was raised to respect the name of JC and G. Saying their name in anger is a sin, and you don’t do it. </p>

<p>And OBTW, when did you become the person that has decided “most people do not find that offensive” Link me data PLEASE because I am dieing to see it. </p>

<p>Why if you have a great knowledge of the English language did you feel the only way to get your point across was to say JC? You scored in the high 700’s on the SAT, but the only words you could find were JC to express your emotions?</p>

<p>Honestly, I could care left, right or middle about Goldman Sachs, that is their company, end of subject.</p>

<p>I also find the fact that you did not link the emails re: JC very enlightening.</p>

<p>I do not want this thread diverted. You asked, we answered. </p>

<p>COLLEGE ADVISORS will not review your schedule because you are NOT a student. Time for the thread to die.</p>

<p>Your ARSE IS IN, most likely Honors… MOVE ON!</p>