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<p>YIKES!!!</p>
<p>Well, Freak, I am gay, so would you rather I be a gay Catholic or a gay atheist?</p>
<p>(…I can’t even believe I’m responding to this. I must be seriously putting off calc homework.)</p>
<p>Even if it’s true, I can’t fault gays from shying away from organized religion. It’s elitist fundamentalists like Business_Freak who scare them away with their heteronormative assertions that homosexuals are somehow less human than heterosexuals. </p>
<p>Let’s clarify, what is this “argument of motion” again? That everything has a cause. According to this theory, God is responsible for everyone and everything, including atheists and homosexuals.</p>
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<p>The last time I checked, Christainity was an anti-gay religion.</p>
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<p>Do you find a man sleeping with another man right?</p>
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I don’t know what’s funnier, the statement itself or Business_Freak’s response. :p</p>
<p>I’ve been learning about pederasty (:eek: ) as part of the Athens FOCUS I’m in at Duke. I’m not sure about modern religion, but Greeks certainly didn’t see anything wrong with it. :p</p>
<p>I think most Christians, or at least people like me, prefer the don’t ask, don’t tell policy.</p>
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<p>Gay people aren’t the only ones. People like Business_Freak really convinced me that organized religion isn’t for me. I used to think that tolerance was the big thing we were going for in today’s world. Now I see that armed with the “my religion says so” excuse, idiots can continue discrimination at any level unharmed.</p>
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<p>I doubt you’ve ever checked much, but I’m curious as to how you define “anti.” There are thousands of Christian gays.</p>
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<p>Sure. Do you find judging others where it’s none of your business right?</p>
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<p>As long as gay people are depressed, everything’s fine :)</p>
<p>Tetrahedr0n, you can’t judge religion based on what a few people say. Heck, the Duke Catholic community participated in the LGBT parade Duke had a while ago. Most religions are tolerant.</p>
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<p>According to the Bible and many Christian stories, a man was made for a woman. Ever heard of gay stories in the Bible? :)</p>
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<p>Yes, especially when they have adverse effects society.</p>
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<p>Sure, most religions can claim that their basis is a tolerant one. But then you have to take a good look at what “religious belief” is used for. There are plenty of good Christians out there, but I don’t think that they would not be otherwise good if they were atheists. The problem comes in when you look at just what religious fundamentalists believe. And “few” of them doesn’t cover it. There are literally millions right here in the US.</p>
<p>In any case, the reason I don’t follow a major religion isn’t just due to what religious people say or do. That may play a part, but it isn’t the most important one.</p>
<p>I’m not sure I see how gay people have adverse effects on society, Business. 
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<p>The world is overpopulated as it is. Less children = good for the world</p>
<p>I would greatly appreciate a detailed analysis of the adverse effects homosexuality has on humanity as a whole :)</p>
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<p>AIDs and Immorality, for instance :)</p>
<p>Note the capitalized Immorality. This isn’t your plain-old garden variety immorality. This is Immorality ™, c 2005, God. :)</p>
<p>Dude, you’re gonna regret all that.</p>
<p>Ah, when all else fails, back it up with the “you’re going to hell” argument? Always one that really impresses us atheists who don’t believe in it. :)</p>
<p>some of you guys are killing me. My post is clearly all sarcasm, I do not believe the muslim community as a whole is responsible for any of that. The “muslims” who are responsible for that are the ones with the extremely closed minds. The ones who believe all those who don’t follow their exact interpretation of holy texts are ruining the sweet earth they live on. The very few who make outrageous connections between things like the rise of homosexuality, the decline of religion, and the impending apocalypse. The one’s who condemn science and how it refutes god, and yet at the same time use science and technology in an attempt to spread their message, whether it be comandeering a plane or using an internet message board. For those of you who misunderstood me, I want to make it very clear that I am very tolerant of muslims, or any other religion for that matter, I was simply making a very sarcastic remark regarding the few who identify with a religion, and skew it’s beliefs so far out of whack, that they cast a bad light on themselves and the rest of the people who appropriately follow their religion. You know, the one’s who refuse to associate with people who aren’t of their religion, the fanatics who refuse to believe clearly proven theories regarding the sun and the earth. The only religious people we need fear are the ones who bombard us with statements about how if we don’t totally agree with them, we are ruining god’s gift to us, and that we will be sorry when judgement day arrives and our souls are sent to hell for eternity, whereas their bigotry will result in paradise, it is these people who are the terrorists.</p>
<p>And I too ask you, Business_Freak, to show me some stats showing the correlation of atheism and homosexuality.</p>
<p>Business_Freak, isnt southern africa the hotbed of AIDS right now? Are black people ruining society?</p>