<p>“Hispanic” is such a degrading term.</p>
<p>1st. LOL at the manner in which the OP tries to support his claim that Hillary is the best candidate.</p>
<p>2nd. I’m a Latino high school senior who will be voting for Obama if and when he wins the Democratic nomination(otherwise, Mcain).</p>
<p>3rd. Sorry for reviving this thread.</p>
<p>Obama: “I want CHANGE, I don’t know how I am going to do it what experience I have to draw upon, or what this CHANGE will actually be, but there will be CHANGE”</p>
<p>You are all being duped by rhetoric</p>
<p>McCain '08!!</p>
<p>Source that quote, Boston88!</p>
<p>Yeah, the fact that his policy points are equally substansive to McCain’s or Hillary’s means he is purely rhetoric. And he has held elected office for 10 years, to Hillary’s 8. McCain seems hell bent on expanding military involvement abroad, and that seems completely wreckless policy, especially with the national debt hovering around 9 trillion dollars.</p>
<p>Whether Obama is the best candidate is your own decision, but that reasoning is completely baseless.</p>
<p>“McCain seems hell bent on expanding military involvement abroad”</p>
<p>Can that be sourced?</p>
<p>Yeah. Here’s a link: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/459141-i-love-hillary-clinton-stop-talking-smack-5.html#post1059913961[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/459141-i-love-hillary-clinton-stop-talking-smack-5.html#post1059913961</a> ;)</p>
<p>I’m more referring to the outright offense he takes at the idea of getting out of Iraq or other regions, and the relative openness to entering other theaters(i.e. Iran). Not leaving anywhere, and going new places = increase in foreign military presence.</p>
<p>“And Hillary has only 4.”</p>
<p>kool-aid must be strong today.</p>
<p>“Clinton was elected as senator for New York State in 2000; this was the first time an American First Lady ran for public office and she is the first female senator from that state”</p>
<p>And this is 2008 right?</p>
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<p>[Does</a> Hillary Clinton Really Have More Experience than Barack Obama?](<a href=“http://www.hnn.us/articles/47143.html]Does”>http://www.hnn.us/articles/47143.html)</p>
<p>Clinton’s the only one offering Kool-aid these days. Reading books to children as the wife of the president doesn’t constitute experience. Being in the political sphere doesn’t count either (we’re familiar with her name? So what?) What’s this experience? Are we basing it on non-legislative endeavors? Should we compare their records prior to politics? Because if we are, Obama’s clearly the more impressive candidate (one fails the bar, the other’s the president of the Harvard Law Review…one works as an underwhelming lawyer,the other teaches constitution Law at UChicago…one works with Walmart…the other takes a pay cut to be a community worker…it goes on and on).</p>
<p>Hillary was the first female associate and partner in the Rose Law Firm, one of the oldest and most respected legal firms in the country. Rose attorneys have become Supreme Court justices, negotiated international treaties, and represented several corporations. She was also voted one of the 100 most influential lawyers by the National Law Journal. ([Encyclopdia</a> Britannica’s Guide to Women’s History](<a href=“Britannica Academic”>Britannica Academic))
I would hardly consider this to be ‘underwhelming’.</p>
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<p>And George Bush went to Yale and HBS. </p>
<p>It almost seems like Hillary got the job because of Bill. She doesn’t appear to have been a particularly stand-out lawyer (read again: failed the bar). She doesn’t appear to have done much while she was at the firm either.</p>
<p>I wonder how well President Bush did on the GMAT.</p>
<p>She was not a trial lawyer–she worked pro bono for child advocacy and wrote articles about children’s law, including a then-controversial article which argued that children must have rights given on a case-by-case level, rather than the blanket statement that minors be given no rights until 18 (addressed in the article: [-</a> New York Times](<a href=“http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE7D71E3EF937A1575BC0A964958260)%5D-”>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE7D71E3EF937A1575BC0A964958260)). She was one of the strongest activists for children’s rights at the time, and served on/headed committees for civil rights and health care.
Prove that Bill got her the job. Then prove that Bill got her full partnership in the firm. </p>
<p>I don’t support Hillary, but the woman does have experience.</p>
<p>All of Hillary’s career milestones have been achieved on Bill’s coattails. She has done nothing on her own.</p>
<p>zoosermom: Recycling Chris Matthews’ sentiments?</p>
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<p>Oh thank you for saying this. I’ve been thinking this for MONTHS. Mrs. Clinton is a first term senator. Mr. Obama is a first term senator. Their personal experience in a political job (not being married to the politician…but holding the job themselves) is not all that different. EXCEPT that Mr. Obama WAS a state senator in Illinois, something Mrs. Clinton has never done. Her “previous experience” is as the spouse of the president. </p>
<p>Look…Hillary is a smart woman, but she really has no more experience on the national level than Obama has.</p>
<p>“zoosermom: Recycling Chris Matthews’ sentiments?”</p>
<p>stating a fact. can you name any career positions that she has earned on her own? The Rose job, of course, wasn’t one, the senate seat wasn’t. Seriously. Please provide an example.</p>
<p>Hi zoosermom.</p>
<p>I just asked a similar question on another thread. I agree with everything you and thumper1 said. </p>
<p>Let’s see who gets an answer first. ;)</p>
<p>(It is easy to avoid answering a question by introducing an attack. Hillary does it all the time.)</p>
<p>I think a lot of people should educate themselves on the things that Hillary has done for Children’s rights (especially her paper “Children Under the Law” ) before she married Bill. </p>
<p>During 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal. </p>
<p>She worked for my Soror Marian Wright Edelman’s Washington Research Project and Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers’ problems in housing, sanitation, health and education.</p>
<p>She has served as a staff attorney for the Children’s Defense Fund. </p>
<p>These are some of the things she did before becoming Mrs Bill Clinton. In fact she did no change her name to Clinton until a couple of years after they were married.</p>
<p>Most of the people who think that she would have been nobody if she had not married Bill do not know anything about her at all. Please be informed before your make statements.</p>
<p>“Most of the people who think that she would have been nobody if she had not married Bill do not know anything about her at all. Please be informed before your make statements.”</p>
<p>Perhaps you should be informed before YOU make statements. I am very well informed about my senator’s qualifications and am often a vocal defender of her performance in office. None of the very small jobs you mentioned have anything to do with qualification for senate or president. Her work with the CDF was known to be for a very, very short time. The rest are nothing jobs that any graduate of a good law school would hold. Until the Clintons returned to Arkansas. There is no credible case for HIllary’s accomplishment absent Bill. The shame is to wonder what she could have done all on her own.</p>