<p>simba,
can you supply any documentation to show that it was the DNC who came up with the idea, and not Clinton supporters? I think a fact check shows that Clinton supporters suggested it, and that the DNC agreed to consider it with some stipulations.</p>
<p>Check out article in today’s Wall street Journal. It states, "Some prominent Democrats are converging on the prospect of mail-in elections to resolve a dispute over the fate of delegates from Florida and Michigan, who were disqualified by the party last year.</p>
<p>Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, speaking on Sunday talk shows, called mail-in voting – in which every registered Democrat, including those overseas, receives a ballot by mail – “a very good process.” But Mr. Dean said it is up to the states’ Democrats to formulate a plan that both campaigns would support."</p>
<p>Further goes on to say, ““The first thing we’re going to do is follow the rules,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” For the party to feel united and defeat Sen. McCain, “the loser of the race has to feel that they’ve been treated fairly within the rules.””</p>
<p>“I also find it funny that Hillary has no problem exploiting children in her famous 3:00am fear monger ad.”</p>
<p>That’s a much bigger deal to me than her providing an overzealous defense to a guilty client. That’s what lawyers do, and it was years ago, and she’s not running for public defender.</p>
<p>Right now, today, she’s willing to terrify parents to accomplish a political end. I don’t respect that, and I don’t like it.</p>
<p>Bz2010, do you really think Hillary was thinking about possible political ramifications that far back? Somehow, I doubt it. True, she’s always loved politics, but I find it hard to believe that she made decisions concerning this case with one eye on a future political run. If anything, don’t you think that destroying a child in the interest of letting a rapist go free would have damaging political implications, as opposed to being a political resume builder?</p>
<p>Like I said, I just believe the “Win!” demon sidled up alongside her and whispered insistently in her ear, couching its arguments in unimpeachable rhetoric, “Pro-bono, or not, it’s your job. He is your client. You have the responsibility to represent him to the best of your ability, which is considerable. Do whatever it takes. The girl is not your client. What happens to her is not your concern. The girl is not your client…the girl is not your client…the girl is not…”</p>
<p>poetsheart: I agree with most of what your wrote above. I don’t know if it was ‘win’ demon or ‘duty to your client’ angel. We can argue till eternity.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I think Hillary was thinking politics from day one, at least from the time she got to Arkansas. IIRC, Bill had already run (and lost) a campaign by the time they were married. They were both “political animals” very early on.</p>
<p>Even if I liked Hilary I would find this amusing- actually I do like her- just not as a presidential candidate.
[In the late spring of 1971, she began dating fellow dick/Yalie Bill Clinton, despite the fact that, at the time, he looked like Kenny Loggins after a weeklong Quaalude bender.](<a href=“Main Page - Dickipedia - A Wiki of Dicks”>Main Page - Dickipedia - A Wiki of Dicks; )</p>
<p>Wow, bz2010—that story is boggles my mind! But it sounds like theres a lot of documentation and a viable email trail, as well as bank involvement. What are the chances this story could get picked up by the media?</p>
<p>"“If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept,” Ferraro told the newspaper.</p>
<p>Ferraro said Clinton had suffered because the press “has been uniquely hard on her. It’s been a very sexist media. Some just don’t like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign.”</p>
<p>The fact that some people don’t like Hillary is NOT sexist. Maybe Geraldine is too caught up in the “sexism”. How can a major Clinton fundraiser get away with playing the race card ???</p>
<p>If Clinton doesn’t denounce the statement and its implications, she should be called for it. This is certainly much worse than an unpaid adviser from the Obama campaign calling Clinton a “monster” during a clearly noted "off the record "comment to a Scottish newspaper. Yet another Clinton Double Standard??? :eek:</p>
<p>Don’t hold your bated breath. The Clintons’ are expert at managing the news by proxies, especially when the mouth is that of another “so likeable” person. </p>
<p>Hilary’s campaign is showing all signs of great despair. Sooner or later, the guillotine will fall. Yes, Obama is very lucky to be who he is. He has not yet been corrupted to the bone by 35 years of experience and the blind ambition of dusting the furniture of 1600 Penn Avenue “again.” </p>
<p>Oh wait, is he supposed to be lucky to be a black male in America in 2008? That’s novel.</p>
<p>1sm, I read post #133 to mean that Edwards + brown skin = Obama, (or, conversely, Obama - brown skin = Edwards), so the fact that Obama trounced Edwards in the primaries is attributable to said skin.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, the Clinton camp seems to think that being a woman in this race is a handicap (or at least it would be for a black woman) when it’s pretty clear that HRH has stayed in this race mostly on the strength of the votes of older women. Without the coffee shop crocodile tears and the massive response of sympathy by women, Hillary would now be planning how to best undermine the **next **President of the United States --as she has done for the past 7 years. </p>
<p>Is Obama lucky not to be woman? Could be as, at least, he escaped the attacks of Clinton against all women who do not automatically support the only viable candidate, the chosen one, the entitled one, the only one deserving the title Her Royal Highness.</p>
<p>Is Farraro implying that Obama is where he is in this race because he is black?
And Simba, do you think that Obama wouldn’t be where he is if he weren’t black… if her were white like Edwards?</p>
<p>I find this amazing. How many blacks are in the senate right now?<br>
I feel that if Obama, with all his smarts, ambition and talents were white, he would be much farther along politically than he is now. He started poor and went up through the black community because that’s where the opportunity for him was.<br>
If Farraro thinks that Obama is “lucky to be who he is” perhaps she needs to also mention that Hilary is lucky to be who she is–the wife of a former president.</p>
<p>In case you haven’t seen it yet, here is Geraldine’s response to the Obama campaign’s concern about her original racist comment.</p>
<p>“Any time anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says let’s address reality and the problems we’re facing in this world, you’re accused of being racist, so you have to shut up,” Ferraro said. “Racism works in two different directions. I really think they’re attacking me because I’m white. How’s that?”</p>
<p>Geraldine has completely lost it. She really was only on the ticket because she was a woman. She doesn’t do women justice at all.
In fact she is a total embarrassment and hypocrite. :(</p>
<p>She and Hillary are making this a very divisive competition by using race and gender. No wonder everyone is excited about change. As a woman, I wouldn’t want either of them representing me, or speaking on my behalf.</p>