<p>Well, those Clintons with all their dirty dealings, scandals, pardons, selling access to the WH, sexual dalliances, and on, and on, and on. Neither one of them are worthy of the highest office in the land and most prestigous job in the world. I don’t want either one of them representing my neighborhood, much less my country! </p>
<p>Are you old enough to REMEMBER the Clinton administration??</p>
<p>“Are you old enough to REMEMBER the Clinton administration??”</p>
<p>Yes I do. There was no war involving Americans, job market was good, crime rate had gone down, the federal budget was in black - there was a surplus, stock market was doing great. Republicans were under control, Bill was centerist. Frankly, my life was much better 8 years ago then now.</p>
<p>“There was no war involving Americans, job market was good, crime rate had gone down, the federal budget was in black - there was a surplus, stock market was doing great. Republicans were under control, Bill was centerist. Frankly, my life was much better 8 years ago then now.” </p>
<p>Such a shame that the terrorists didn’t ask permission before messing with our country.</p>
<p>No, then came the last two years of Clinton. Please tell there was no war to the families of Americans who were killed in Lebanon and other places like onboard the Cole. The job market was good and the stock market was doing good until the smoke and mirrors that kept the dot.com fueled economy came crashing down, and all the low hanging fruits seeded by the previous three administrations were plucked. We had surplus because we deferred investments in much needed areas. Care to discuss how the budget for the Education Department fared under Clinton the education president? Care to discuss how well prepared our army was? How secure our borders were when dealing with Lewinsky was more important than protecting our citizens. Care to discuss our foreign policy under Clinton/Albright and our organized genocide of Iraqis? Yep, life was good as long as none of us felt it closer to home. </p>
<p>I don’t doubt you felt better. The citizens of New Orleans probably felt better too as there was not much money invested from that magical surplus in addressing the serious worries about the next big storm. Laissez les bons temps roulez was not only the motto in Louisiana but very much so in Washington. As long as the bill is presented to the next in line. </p>
<p>And yes, then came 9/11.</p>
<p>By the way, Simba, how did your retirement plan fare between the summer of 1999 and the elections of 2000?</p>
<p>I agree that Hilary was within the norms of attorney behavior- I also recognize that she seems to have exhibited difficulty with taking the case & afterwards with the plight of the rape victim & established a hotline.</p>
<p>However, attorneys have declined to take similar cases, and I feel if she really was more interested in children’s rights and wellbeing, she could have found a way to not exploit her knowledge of child development in order to argue her case.</p>
<p>So many people who are actually victims, are afraid to press charges or go to court because of attorneys like that- who will blame them for the crime committed against them.</p>
<p>Oh yeah ek4 - I forgot about how she “spun” the info about child development to favor her client in the case. Funny how those documents disappeared too! </p>
<p>(That always seems to happen around the Clintons - especially when you have someone like Sandy Berger, who has no qualms about stuffing classified papers down his pants, on the payroll! Isn’t he working on her campaign now? Why isn’t he in JAIL??).</p>
<p>Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are the King and Queen of smoke and mirrors. I’m still waiting to hear some FACTS as to what she has done.</p>
<p>She can never keep the stories straight and in large part that’s 'cause they are just stories, half-truths and embellishments. Facts are easy to state and keep track of.</p>
<p>She just keeps saying she has a “lifetime of experience”. Well a minute old baby has it’s own lifetime of experience. It’s a meaningless statement.</p>
<p>She was the First Lady and went on dozens of “tea and cookie” trips. Her one “goal” of health care reform was a failure because she cannot put together a coalition, she cannot reach compromise. Her style is “us vs. them” and that leads to nothing but fighting and discord. And she’ll tell you she’s a fighter as if that is a good thing.</p>
<p>All her campaign is about is her childhood dream to be President, about her pact with Bill to that end. That is at the heart of her sticking with Bill through all his acts of immorality. This is all about HER perceived destiny and who the heck is this Obama guy standing in the way of this. In her mind, it is her “turn” and she and Wild Bill will say and do anything to get back into the White House. </p>
<p>I see NOTHING about her that is presidential. Her behavior alone in this campaign is unprofessional, often reprehensible and too often sophomoric if not just silly. It all belongs more in a campaign for 9th grade class president than for the leader of the “free world” as they say.</p>
<p>Yeah, sokker, the Clintons are rubbing their hands together at the prospect. If there’s a loophole, or an opportunity to corrupt, they’ll find it!</p>
<p>“Yeah, sokker, the Clintons are rubbing their hands together at the prospect. If there’s a loophole, or an opportunity to corrupt, they’ll find it!”</p>
<p>And so are we. Let us not get in the way of the Clintons destroying their party and their presidential aspirations.</p>
<p>Isn’t it considered rape if a 41 year old man has sex with a 12 year old girl, regardless of the issue of “consent” on her part? She is considered incapable of giving adult consent because her mind is still that of a child. She cannot truly comprehend the ramifications of such a potentially life altering decision, because the brain development of a 12 year old literally precludes it. As a child development expert, surely Hillary must have known this.</p>
<p>I read about this case, and was somewhat disturbed by the way Hillary relentlessly, and without mercy went after this child, whom she must have known could very well have been raped in the classical sense of the word, unambiguously and in no uncertain terms. At the very least, the crime was statutory rape, for which her client should have been held entirely responsible.</p>
<p>Having said all that, it does appear that Hillary wrestled with her conscience over the way she handled this case, and all her consequent work to help rape victims and disadvantaged children may have stemmed from the desire to atone for it. . People are very complex beings, and can behave in ways quite contradictory as they wrestle their demons and attempt to figure out the way to go. I do believe that she cares deeply about issues relating to children’s welfare (especially after having become a mother herself), and has worked very hard to improve the plight of America’s youngest citizens. But I also believe that one of her most deep seated demons is the overwhelming desire to “win at any cost”, and it was this demon that prompted her to destroy a child on the witness stand. I suspect this is a demon which she shares with Bill, and one of the reasons why, as a combined entity, they have the long established reputation for deferring all other ethics in service to this prime directive:Win first. Question later..</p>
<p>mail-order prmary was DNC idea - not Hillary. I read somewhere today that NJ and PA Governors (backers of Clinton) have offered to raise half or about $15 million for a regular primary vote. Obama camp has not responded.</p>
<p>There is danger in running with a BLOG story without searching elsewhere. It makes you pumped up and will make you throw punches in air.</p>
<p>^ According to many newspapers (not blogs), it is the Florida Democrats who are Hillary supporters that are pushing for the mail order ballots.</p>
<p>Both the Chicago Tribune and Orlanda Sentinel report, “U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson held a meeting Saturday afternoon to discuss logistics. The Florida Democrat, a Clinton supporter, also says the mail-in option is the best way to sort out the state’s delegate mess, his chief of staff said.”</p>
<p>I’m not sure that the DNC is pushing any particular option. Again, the Kool Aid takes over. The Clinton obsessed are always distorting the FACTS, and attemting to diminish the message by implying that the messenger is being disingenuous, when it is once again the Clintons and their supporters who are being disingenuous. :(</p>
<p>poetsheart - I like your analysis.
I think Hillary wrestled more with whether to take the case (the article mentions that she didn’t want to take it). But once she realized that she couldn’t get out of it, she was going to WIN, no matter what.</p>
<p>AND I think she didn’t want to take it because it isn’t that “popular” to defend a child rapist - bad for politics, you know! </p>
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