I want to be a Tar Heel...

<p>Hi there, </p>

<p>I want to go to UNC-CH.
I live in chapel hill and that is part of of my blood and I love everything about the college. I am a junior. I go to high school in Chapel Hill too.</p>

<p>I am Asian, Male. </p>

<p>My stats are 2110 SAT, math (750), verbal (640), and writing (720)</p>

<p>GPA( UW, 3.4/4) and W (4.3)
Rank: top 20-35%ish, depends on how well I do this semster, had a C in pre-cal last semster.
AP- Art-5, APUSH- 5
SATII- USH-800, Math IIC- 740, world history-800
Took 2 APs 10th grade
Taking 3 right now
Takeing 4 next year</p>

<p>ECs- President of 2 clubs and founded one.
Will win the state NHD contest. </p>

<p>Essays- I will start them this summer and hopfully they will be good.</p>

<p>Rec- Good. </p>

<p>Misc-Dad works at UNC at a lab director</p>

<p>Thats all that I have, tell me my chances and how to improve them</p>

<p>I think you've got a good shot.</p>

<p>everything looked great until I saw the class rank. Most students are 10% or better....how come your rank is low</p>

<p>Well, I got to ECHHS, we rank number 37 in the country. </p>

<p>And the enviroment is insane. To be in the top 10%, you have to have taken an AP/additional honors(band ppl) before junior year and make straight As. The cut off line for top 10% this year will be some where around 4.4, I would assume, since people are just overloading themseleves with APs like crazy. </p>

I also play 2 sports and did an internship at UNC
My intended major is History or Business.</p>

<p>the cutoff for 10% at our school is 4.4 as well but you're 4.3 so how come your 20-35%?? i would say thats a big gap</p>


<p>East Chapel Hill High is a feeder school for UNC and while there's no official "cutoff", UNC looks at much higher ranks than the normal top 10% since there are so many talented kids under one roof. Each year, they accept a huge number from each of the magnets and feeders - 100 + in a lot of the larger programs.</p>

<p>Ooops. Looking back at my posting, I meant to say that UNC takes a larger group of students from the feeders & academic magnets than other high schools and that they go well beyond the top 10% or so to do it. I think the way I worded it might have implied the opposite. This proves that I should never post anything before my second cup of coffee in the morning. :)</p>

<p>umm i said the cutoff for my school was 4.4...i said nothing about UNC....</p>

<p>Hmm, do you happen to know what the Cut-off mark is for UNC for ECHHS students?</p>

<p>like around what range of rank?</p>

<p>I must have misunderstood then. I thought you were questioning why his 4.3 GPA was in the top 20-30% at ECHHS when at your school he'd be within the top 10%. My point was that at the feeders/magnets, there's always a large group of highly competitive students clustered in the top 20-30%, and that UNC takes a huge number of them.</p>

<p>I don't know if this will help put things in perspective, but there was an article in the newspaper about Enloe and UNC last December that gave some statistics on how many Enloe students were accepted last year. It said that 71% of the 200 applicants from Enloe were admitted last year. That would be 142 students from this one school. I don't know how big the class was, but this year's junior class is 491. If the senior class last year was a similar size, that would mean that someone ranked in at least the top 29% in the class was accepted (and that's assuming that all of the 200 applicants were the top students). And the situation at ECHHS is very similar to the situation at Enloe. </p>

<p>The scary thing is the article mentioned a junior with a 4.2 GPA who is ranked 169 out of 491. It's a little scary to think that she would possibly not be accepted (that's only in the top 35%).</p>

<p>Just remember so many other factors go into the admission process besides class rank. But my point was that at schools like Enloe and ECHHS, the accepted class rank is a lot higher than 10%.</p>

<p>142 students accepted from enloe? wow......</p>

<p>by the way if i went to Enloe i think my gpa would be higher...there's no way theres that many people getting A's. I'm sure its just a better grading scale there or easier AP classes.</p>

<p>prodj88: I doubt your GPA would be higher if you went to Enloe. In fact, every class at Enloe loses at least 10% of the entering freshman class by the junior year. Many students end up transferring OUT of Enloe to an easier high school, so their GPA/class rank will be higher, definitely not the other way around. Enloe is an academically rigorous and extremely demanding high school. Also, I would guess that a few public high schools in NC are standouts; among them are Enloe, East Chapel Hill High, School of Science and Math, and at least one of the outstanding schools in Charlotte.</p>

<p>You guys are comparing big apples to little apples or even apple pie?</p>

<p>Give the guy a break: </p>

<p>Truth is, ALL schools have such an inflated grading scale now that GPA should not even be taken into consideration unless it is way low. Think about it, my mom says 25 years ago, maybe 5 kids had straight A's and maybe 3 got accepted into the Honor Society per year! At my school, 58% have either straight A or AB averages and maybe 30 get into the honor society every year. Now you could say it is just my school or my mom's that does that but when you LISTEN to others you hear the same thing. There is not way that there are hundreds of kids from every school or every neighhood or for that matter ever area that are so brilliant that they should be getting all A's and 4.5 GPAs. As far as AP courses, I have taken them and so have my friends and one is not equal to the other. The final exam is but not the course grades. They are subject to the teacher's opinons and the teacher's outlook and ability to teach or lack of!</p>

<p>i agree with the post above... i go to east too and the grade inflation is CRAZY. ap a's are worth 6.0 out of a 4.0... that's why a 4.3 or w/e is only top 30%. at east a 4.0 weighted is 50% it's ridiculous we have people graduating with over 5.0 average gpas</p>

<p>Hey, </p>

<p>Really? 4.3 is 30%? is that for this semster or the end of sophomore year?</p>

<p>I never got my report card since I own the school money so I never found my rank....book fees......</p>


<p>hm i was going off your first post, where you said you had a 4.3 and ranked 20-35%. they only rank at the end of the year so i have no idea where a 4.3 is, but if you go to the school website and click on academics there's a table of gpas/ranks for the '03 seniors and you can probably estimate your rank off that</p>

<p>hey now that i think about it i'm pretty sure you can just go in to your GC and they give you your exact rank</p>

<p>Well, here is how I think about the ranks at our school...</p>

<p>I know for a fact that 4.05 at our school in the middle of the sophomore year is a 26%. </p>

<p>But in the end of that year, 4.3 is a 86/453, at least taht what my neighbor got. </p>

<p>So I just assuming, but that with all the NCSSM kids, which all have a better rank than me....</p>

<p>oh my gosh, I am getting obessed.....</p>

<p>I dont like to go to my conselor, she likes me and everything but I just a little chickened out about my ranks...</p>

<p>And I always get the wrong rank in the mail, like I had the exact GPA as my neighbor freshmen year, yet somehow he is lower than me by 20 places, come to think of it, he might even had a higher GPA....</p>

<p>the system is messed up.....</p>