If I'm deferred...

Colleges & Universities Johns Hopkins University
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<p>I applied ED to JHU and I have a funny feeling that I’m going to get deferred since I am the only one in my school applying ED. I’ve heard stories of universities deferring the only applicant to see what kind of other students they can squeeze out of the school. Should I resubmit my application if I am deferred, or not bother?</p>

<p>GPA: 3.66 (unweighted)
SAT superscore: 770 math, 640 writing, 640 reading
SAT IIs: math 2 = 770, chemistry = 750, physics = 760
ACT composite (with essay): 35
AP mechanics C: 5
AP calculus AB: 4
AP Chemistry: 4</p>

<p>Senior classes:
-AP electricity and magnetism
-AP literature
-French IV
-Architecture (school requirement)
-Communications and Media Studies (school requires that I take an art course, and we have a small selection)
-Multi variable Calculus (Independent study)
-AP Biology</p>

<p>I took French I, Geometry and trigonometry, and Calculus BC outside of school, causing my schedules to look strange on paper</p>

<p>EC’s-
Rescue Squad (volunteer, not pay)
-Cadet (member under 18)
-May 2008-present for at least 5 hours a week
job at engineering firm
-Geotechnical Engineer
-AutoCAD advisor and designer
-June 2008-August 2008
-Field Researcher
Varsity swim team
-Letter holder
-September 2005-present
YMCA swim team
-Member
-2001-Febuary 2006
club swim team
-Member
-1998-August 2006
Robotics Club
-Head of programming
-2005, 2008
-Robotics club was disbanded after the 2005 season and reformed by myself and another student in 2008
Drama Club tech crew
-Spotlight Technician and Operator
-September 2007-present
Junior Olympic Archery
-Cadet age group
-Archer Rank
-July 2006-present
Math League
-September 2005-present
Student Council
-September 2005-present
National Honor Society
-Math & Science tutor
-September 2007-present
French Club
-September 2005-present
Multicultural Club
-September 2005-present
House Band
-September 2006-September 2007</p>

<p>awards:
Honor Roll (every marking period)
Student of the Month
2nd Place in New Jersey Archery
National Archery competition qualified
1st place in freshman class in school-wide mathematics contest
3 time varsity letter swimmer
National Honor Society Inductee</p>

<p>Other things worth mentioning:
Palisades Stability Report
-Researched stability of Palisades cliffs in Hudson County
-Carried out field research at the slopes
-Plotted map of affected areas
-Map and data published and classified by Hudson County
Creation of House Band
-Founded House Band as a section of the Student Council
-Headed band + called meetings and performances
I organized multiple other events with the student council, but they’re too minor to list
I’m a first generation American, both of my parents are immigrants
I volunteer at cultural centers and churches, acting as a translator and sort of as a cultural liaison occasionally
English isn’t the language spoken at home</p>

<p>I also took some classes at JHU (inductive and deductive reasoning, geometry and trigonometry) and remained in touch with the heads of two academic departments</p>

<p>almost every single one of my teachers (not an exaggeration) quit working for my school, but I managed to get letters of rec from my mechanics teacher (who quit) and my math teacher (who happens to also be my principal). I don’t know what my mechanics teacher wrote, but my math teacher told me she wrote a long letter explaining my ambitions through the past four years and my development as a student</p>

<p>sorry for the wonky formatting, and that it’s a little bit late.</p>

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<p>Is it really true that Universities defer just to squeeze applicants out of a school? I am the only one applying ED, and no one else plans on applying to Hopkins even in RD…they just don’t care. I may very well be the first person from my school to ever apply to JHU, besides one person who is currently at Peabody. I really hope what you said isn’t true because JHU is my dream school and I’d rather not be deferred just for that reason…especially with the competition this year.</p>

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<p>I don’t know, it’s all tales I’ve heard from students, never from any admissions officers. So far the only people who have been accepted ED are students who applied with competition, students who applied alone to schools this year didn’t get in (depressing and ironic). I think maybe up to three people are applying to Hopkins RD from my school, and even then, not as serious about going to it as I am.</p>

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<p>That is extremely disheartening… I REALLY hope that is not true. Wow. I can’t imagine not getting into my #1 choice for something as dumb as not being in a competitive school/a school with students who give little regard to applying/going to Hopkins. Small(ish) school from a small state… I’ve done everything for Hopkins that they have to offer. Monday is judgment day.</p>

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<p>I hope this isnt true! I am the only one applying ED to JHU from three top schools in my city! This is really quite scary not to mention sad.</p>

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<p>like i’ve heard this from distressed mothers and students, but never from officials. I’m just about ready to accept it as false</p>

<p>i just wanted to know if anyone else heard of it.</p>

<p>also, back on topic. what about the original question i asked?</p>

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<p>Folks, stop freaking out. Life is going to go on no matter deferred or not. As an economics major, there’s a tendency that we economists often make very false speculations about the future, so the best way to avoid that is to focus on the present and stop predicting what’s going to happen in a week, in 10 weeks, in 6 months… </p>

<p>There’s a saying: The Past is a History. The Future is a Mystery. The Present, however, is a Gift. That’s why it’s called a “present.” As someone who’s been in college for a long while now, my advice to you is to “chillax.” No matter what happens, you are still who you are. Often times, it’s not the skills or assets or achievements, but rather the choices we make, that define who we really are as a person. </p>

<p>Look, it’s almost Christmas. Go out and enjoy the holiday season. Enjoy your friends, spend time with your family, watch some great movies, travel to another place for a short vacation, or read some great books. Life is too short to worry about some trivial college admissions decision. By the way, I personally prefer doing a Star Wars marathon during this time of the year, all the way from phantom menace to return of the jedi…fun.</p>

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<p>star wars marathons are fun, but its like deciding to eat a whole pizza pie by yourself. sounds like a good idea, you have to do it at least once in your life, but right after, you wish you were doing something else :-P</p>

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<p>By the way, your stats look great. According to historical ED trends, you should receive the following email on Dec. 15 (it’s the one from dec. 2006 ED admits): </p>

<p>Congratulations! You have been accepted to Johns Hopkins University under the Early Decision Plan. All of us in the Office of Undergraduate Admissions couldn’t be more pleased that you’ll be joining the campus community as a member of the Class of 2011. Your acceptance packet, with your official letter of admission to the university, has been sent to you today by postal mail; you should receive it shortly.</p>

<p>Should you choose to confirm your place in the freshman class with no delay, simply return the attached Candidate Reply Form along with your $600 deposit. The Office of Undergraduate Admissions must receive the form and deposit postmarked on or before January 15, 2007. </p>

<p>You will be sent information about housing and health services in the spring; registration and freshman Orientation materials will follow later this summer. In offering you admission, I expect that your fine performance in school will continue; this offer is contingent upon the successful completion of your final school year.</p>

<p>Again, congratulations on your achievement, and best wishes as you complete your studies this year. I look forward to welcoming you to campus next fall.</p>

<p>Best wishes,</p>

<p>John Latting
Director of Undergraduate Admissions</p>

<p>P.S. While you’re waiting for your packet to arrive, check out Johns Hopkins’ newly improved and expanded Hopkins Interactive. Click on [Hopkins</a> Interactive](<a href=“http://apply.jhu.edu/hi]Hopkins”>http://apply.jhu.edu/hi) to access student profiles, blogs, message boards, and more.</p>

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<p>OK, i just needed some reassurance. My decision to go for a high rigor rating senior year did not work out as well as I had planned, so RD would be a lot more difficult.</p>

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<p>Ok, what you need to do now is to get off CC and go do something fun…</p>

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<p>hah. you’re funny. I have to write 5 pages on why hamlet isn’t insane (read my previous post)</p>

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<p>I’m serious. For heaven’s sake it’s Saturday night. SATURDAY NIGHT. Most of us here have 3-5 finals next week, too.</p>

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<p>Wait, so if you’re deferred from a school, you’re not automatically placed in RD? you have to resubmit?</p>

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<p>No, being deferred from a school places you in RD automatically.</p>

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<p>^That’s what I thought. Thanks.</p>

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<p>Simple answers…</p>

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<p>Not true in any way. A strong majority of our ED applicants are the only applicant from a specific school during ED, and there is no way we know how many applicants we will see from a school in RD. Whoever told you this knows nothing. </p>

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<p>ED deferred applicants do not need to re-submit their application, they are automatically re-considered during RD. </p>

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<p>FANTASTIC ADVICE.</p>

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<p>thanks for clearing everything up, dan</p>

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<p>Schools will not defer students to ‘squeeze applicants’ out of a high school - it would not be smart. Why would a high school defer a student **who is guaranteed to enroll **when there is a chance that nobody else would apply from that school, then admit the deferred ED applicant only to lose them to another school b/c they didn’t take them Early??</p>

<p>It makes more sense to admit the applicant from the high school in ED, enroll them, take nobody in RD and have at least one student from that HS in the freshman class. </p>

<p>Chances are always higher in ED, independent of how many students apply from a specific high school.</p>

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<p>if you’re deferred go read WritingHannah’s insightful blogposts about the Ivy League, the history of grades, and the insanity of the system. That should set you straight.</p>