<p>Standford and Duke</p>
<p>why not—
MIT (too geeky)
NYU (too central people ish)
Carnegie (young)
William and Mary (athletic reasons)</p>
<p>Duke is so NOT Ivy.</p>
<p>haha there’s actually a Facebook group (of which I am a proud member) entitled something along the lines of “Movement to keep Duke from becoming an Ivy because we’re above all that ********.”</p>
<p>Stanford and Duke are too far away and have played the eight Ivys a combined once in football since the founding of the Ivy League 50 years ago. William & Mary makes more sense geographically and size-wise; also playing on the same athletic level and has played the played the eight schools 19 times over this span, so certainly has more athletic commonality than Stanford or Duke, but not nearly as much as Patriot League schools (Colgate: 168, Holy Cross: 132, Lafayette: 105, Lehigh: 88, Bucknell: 77).</p>
<p>CMU plays in the low level, little interest D-III sports league that WUSTL, URochester, Emory, etc do and NYU (besides having a lower academic quality student body than ~ 40 schools not in the Ivy League) doesn’t even do that.</p>
<p>JHU and Uchicago</p>
<p>Stanford and Duke are too young. MIT is too much of a specialty school.</p>
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<p>Oh, I don’t know about that. Cornell isn’t exactly the oldest school in the country (founded in 1865), yet Cornell is in the Ivy League.</p>
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<p>I strongly recall somebody from Cornell saying a fairly similar thing about his alma mater.</p>
<p>Granted, he was an engineering student at Cornell.</p>
<p>and stanford</p>
<p>Doesn’t Cornell pre-date Duke if one discounts the Trinity College connection? Stanford is barely 100 years old, right?</p>
<p>It all depends on what you want to call Duke’s official founding date. Duke was founded anywhere between 1838-1924, depending on how you choose to define the term “founded”.</p>
<p><a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_University[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_University</a></p>
<p>True, Stanford is barely 100 years old (founded 1891). But like I said, Cornell was founded only in 1865. So it’s not like Cornell is really that much older than Stanford is.</p>
<p>Stanford and MIT.</p>
<p>Amherst and Williams…they’re nicknamed the Harvard and Yale of the small privates/aka the “Small ivies”</p>
<p>By balls are named Harry and Jonathan - they’re not necessarily correct names for them. </p>
<p>More like Brutus and Vinnie.</p>
<p>I spent twelve years of my life thinking MIT was an Ivy… My second choice would be Stanford.</p>
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true … however some aspects of Cornell were explicitly modeled when Stanford was “designed” … so it was a predecessor viewed as a model to copy by Stnaford.</p>
<p>To tally up the results:
*just how often each school was mentioned in this thread</p>
<p>MIT: 65
Stanford: 57
Duke: 55
Georgetown (or Gtown): 34
Chicago (or UChicago): 31
Williams: 29
Amherst: 23
Colgate: 23
Johns Hopkins (or JHU or Hopkins): 19
NYU: 14
Tufts: 14
Northwestern (or NU): 13
Rice: 11
WashU (or Washington or WUSTL): 9
Caltech: 6
Emory: 6
Vanderbilt: 3</p>
<p>Duke is way too high. I grew up in VA and used to visit Duke’s campus all the time. You would never mistake it for Princeton, Dartmouth, or even Cornell. The same could be said for Northwestern.</p>
<p>We’ve got a winner then!</p>
<p>Welcome to the Ivy League MIT and Stanford!</p>
<p>haha</p>
<p>if there were an ivy equivlent to the south, i think it would be:
Duke, Vanderbilt, Emory, Rice, William and Mary, Washington and Lee, and (Georgetown and Johns Hopkins) if you consider them southern.</p>
<p>“Duke is way too high. I grew up in VA and used to visit Duke’s campus all the time. You would never mistake it for Princeton…”</p>
<p>Funny since Princeton and Duke are virtually identical (the dorms in particular). Princeton was the model for much of Duke’s West Campus.</p>