<p>come on the schools have to fit the ivy mold. schools in the northeast, without religious affiliation and solid in most disciplines.</p>
<p>with that I say Tufts and MIT…maybe Hopkins.</p>
<p>Tufts??? Hahahahhahahahahah</p>
<p>Stanford and Georgetown</p>
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<p>Where are West Point and the Naval Academy?</p>
<p>The USMA has been mentioned several times at least…</p>
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<p>Uh, why without religious affiliation? Many of the Ivies were themselves founded mostly to propogate certain religions. Harvard, for example, was initially founded with the purpose of educating Puritan ministers. Yale’s beginnings were as a center for Congregationalist education and were boosted by former Harvard graduates who thought that their alma mater had become too religiously lax, and for a long time stressed the education of Greek and Latin so that Yale students could study the Bible. Princeton was originally founded to train Presbyterian ministers. Columbia was originally founded to be an Anglican counterweight to Puritan Yale and Presbyterian Princeton. Dartmouth was founded with the express purpose of spreading Christian education, especially to the Native Americans (and in fact could be said to be the first college in US history to offer a type of ‘affirmative action’ to Native Americans in order to Christianize them). </p>
<p>The point is, the history of the Ivy League is deeply intertwined with religion. True, none of the Ivies are religiously partisan nowadays, but they were certainly so in the recent past. So if anything, you could say that it is actually the schools that never had a religious history that should not belong in the Ivy League.</p>
<p>“(and in fact could be said to be the first college in US history to offer a type of ‘affirmative action’ to Native Americans in order to Christianize them).”</p>
<p>-Please dont confuse this horrible act of racism with affirmative action!</p>
<p>University of Wisconsin - big enough to take both the 9th and 10th spots.</p>
<p>William and Mary was founded as an Anglican institution; governors were required to be members of the Church of England, and professors were required to declare adherence to the Thirty-Nine Articles. Like Dartmouth, there was also an attempt to Christianize the local Indian population, especially the children of chiefs.</p>
<p>I would like to say that there is noo way Stanford would or could ever beome an ivy league school for several reasons.
1-Its sports teams are waayy too good
2-It is not located anywhere near the ivy league schools
3-Its personality doesn’t fit, its pretty much the opposite of Harvard in most aspects excpet academics
4-Stanford would never think of stooping down to the ivy league :P</p>
<p>My list might be a bit biased but I think its pretty accurate.</p>
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<p>Well, whatever we may think of this actions nowadays, I am fairly certain that back then, they didn’t see what they were doing as racist. You have to remember that back then, people were far more religious than they are today, such that a lot of people truly thought that spreading Christianity was a great way to save souls from hell, and that non-Christians were basically non-entities. Hence, I believe they truly thought they were doing a good thing.</p>
<p>Holy Cross was certainly mentioned more often than Vanderbilt or Emory. </p>
<p>The point of the Ivy League is not to possess colleges 1-8 of academic superiority in the country. It is a sports conference first and foremost(Brown was nowhere near a top 8 school at the initial founding or the first 20 years, thereafter). This is why Stanford, Duke and MIT make no sense for inclusion since their sports teams never play the eight Ivys.</p>
<p>yes, but we are talking about in terms of academic similarities (ie type of student body, atmosphere, how succesful grads are, etc)</p>
<p>If you read through the 18 pages of posts that is not necessarily the case. People all have a different outlook on what “Ivy League” means, which is probably why there is so much disagreement. However, I do enjoy that someone actually took the time to scroll through and tally all the votes.</p>
<p>Here’s a better idea: instead of adding schools to the Ivy League, let’s form a rival league: It will consist of:</p>
<p>MIT
Georgetown
Tufts
Northwestern
UChicago
Duke
Johns Hopkins
Emory</p>
<p>I know these schools are grossly mismatched athletically, but it would be interesting to see what would happen if they leagued together. Any suggestions for a name?</p>
<p>all great, except switch emory for stanford</p>
<p>Why did you leave out certain schools like Stanford?</p>
<p>Tufts and Emory? hmm…</p>
<p>cuz stanford is on the west coast. They can have their own league. We have to have 8</p>
<p>Vandy? UVA? </p>
<p>eh whatever, this whole thread is kinda pointless now…</p>
<p>IIT Ahmedabad.</p>
<p>(I honestly want to see what kind of replies this will get :-P)</p>
<p>It is not a rumor: Georgetown was offered a place in the Ivy-League, but rejected the invitation because of its Catholic affiliation. I initially thought this story was apocryphal, but its truth was confirmed for me by a dean.</p>
<p>I have a better topic: If you could excise two Ivy League schools from the Ivy League, which would they be?</p>
<p>UPenn and Cornell:P</p>