<p>MIT
Georgetown
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
UChicago
Duke
Johns Hopkins
Emory</p>
<p>For another East Coast league. (all private)</p>
<p>West coast:</p>
<p>Stanford
Caltech
Rice (I know it’s not West)
…
USC? lol</p>
<p>You would probably have to put LACs to complete the West Coast league.</p>
<p>USC as an Ivy school? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I would say:
Stanford
MIT
Chicago
Northwestern
Duke
Caltech
Georgetown
Johns Hopkins</p>
<p>If we’re going for the eight most prestigious schools outside the Ivy League.</p>
<p>I didn’t say it was an Ivy.</p>
<p>I made a new league on the west coast, and there is a lack of private research universities that are on par with eastern counterparts.</p>
<p>And by the way,</p>
<p>USC compared to Cornell:</p>
<p>USC SATs- 1270-1440 Acceptance rate: 27%, Percent in top 10th of class: 85%
Cornell - 1290-1480 - 27%, 80%</p>
<p>I’m not saying they are on par, but USC isn’t too far back in terms of raw stats.</p>
<p>Who said we were going for the 8 most prestigious outside the ivy league? Is anyone seriously arguing that ivy league schools are more prestigious than all others on that basis alone?</p>
<p>Yes, Ivy schools are more prestigious than almost all other schools outside the league. That’s just the way things are.</p>
<p>When people think of league, they think of the word in terms of ‘class’ and not sports. Therefore an association to harvard and yale does make the schools more prestigious in that nature.</p>
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<p>Well, I believe Stanford, MIT, and Caltech are as prestigious as HYP and Duke is as prestigious as the rest Ivies.</p>
<p>I would agree with rtkysg. The Ivy League wasn’t formed with the vision of being the top eight academic colleges and that isn’t its mission now either. The only difference is that the term “Ivy League” has come to have a connotation for a high quality academic school when, in fact, the term, still today, denotes a commonality of focus with regard to athletics. This is why Cornell and Brown will not be replaced with Stanford and MIT despite the fact that the latter have higher avg SATs.</p>
<p>true. around here, northwestern is better known than dartmouth or UPENN</p>
<p>yeah same where I live; probably in most places</p>
<p>Clearly, Americans view the Ivy League as an athletic conference–big time college sports, that’s it. Pure genius, that.</p>
<p>For the average American, prestige is definetely Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, followed by everything else. If you are west coast, Stanford can be added to this list. </p>
<p>Obviously, a school will be more prestigious in its own region.</p>
<p>If the Ivy league were to expand it would need the following:</p>
<p>1) Two Schools to balance the athletic schedules located in the Eastern Seaboard since lacrosse and volleyball teams and other non-revenue sports teams cannot travel west to Stanford.</p>
<p>2) Two Competitive 1-AA football programs. Duke has a dreadful football program in the ACC and Georgetown has an ever improving 1-AA program that already plays two of the Ivies each year. Both programs could compete at the Ivy League low end right now with Duke downgrading and Georgetown upgrading slightly.</p>
<p>3) Similar enrollments to the Ivies. Both Duke and Georgetown have this.</p>
<p>4) Distinctive strengths that would complement and in some cases upgrade the overall academics of the Ivy League. Duke’s differential strength is in Medicine and Georgetown’s is in its School of Foreign Service.</p>
<p>5) Good long standing relationships. Both Duke and Georgetown have been admission “travel buddies” with Harvard and Penn for many years which shows that the four schools have a good relationship with each other already.</p>
<p>6) Nationally recognized athletic programs in non-revenue sports that would upgrade the Ivy League. Georgetown won the national championship in sailing this year and is top 10 in both Women’s and Men’s lacrosse. Duke is Final four in Women’s basketball and women’s lacrosse. Once the men’s lacrosse is reinstated at Duke it will regain its powerhouse status.</p>
<p>Also, admitting both schools would assuage and go a very long way to putting an end forever to any residual historic bigotry toward both the South and Catholics in America. It is therefore, soemthing everyone in the Ivy League would feel very good about doing as the League was at the same time enhancing both its athletic and academic strengths.</p>
<p>And with Penn, Duke, Georgetown and Princeton on the basketball court together, you would have one powerhouse basketball league that would bring in gobs of TV money.</p>
<p>Duke has played all of those schools w/in the past 2 years, and other than the gtown upset, I don’t think television really cared (except that Princeton game was v. historic w/ 100 yrs in Cameron, etc) or it won’t be a powerhouse by any means.</p>
<p>But other than that, I completely agree with your post vienna man. well said!</p>
<p>Duke would never drop its level of basketball to join the Ivy League and couldn’t keep its current level and enter the Ivy Leaue. Plus, Princeton and Penn might be strong in basketball for the Ivy League, but would be trounced if they consistently played even second rate Big East teams like Seton Hall and Providence.</p>
<p>Life goes on, maybe they’d get better?
(Hahahhaha!)</p>
<p>I’ll say Johns Hopkins as a definite! The only problem I have with it is that they have an amazing Men’s Lacrosse team, but the Ivy’s are usually pretty good at lacrosse anyway…</p>
<p>Columbia also has a basketball heritage with a couple of stray NBA players like Jim McMillian of the Lakers in its hoops pantheon. Also, the basketball money and TV exposure of the ten team league (the current eight plus Georgetown and Duke) would be split 10 ways and not 12 as in the current ACC or 16 as in the current Big East.</p>
<p>Any school that is added would have to be a division 1-AA school since the Ivy Leauge is first and foremost an athletic conference. So my guess would be any of the schools in the Patriot Leauge or maybe one of the Service Acadamies would be willing to drop down to 1AA staus since they will not loose any scholarships being that all students are in theory on full rides anyways.</p>