<p><a href=“http://www.madison.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34015[/url]”>http://www.madison.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34015</a></p>
<p>Interesting that her bio page on the website of her “institute” doesn’t list her education credentials.</p>
<p>Maybe “Dr.” is her first name.</p>
<p>what’s that quote? Oh, right: lies, damned lies and…twisted statistics</p>
<p>barrons: You can do better than repeat chit-chats.</p>
<p>can an institute be just one person? and if not, why are there no other names at all associtated with it but the good Dr’s…</p>
<p>barrons, what is the “institute” beyond this one person…can’t find anything on it, and for such a big deal paper, one would HOPE that there were more involved</p>
<p>if yu are reporting on 1million people, and claming accruacy, you better have a bit of help I would think</p>
<p>Why does anyone bother to spread this kind of trash?</p>
<p>The “researcher” obviously has no understanding of basic logic and math. She got an “estimate” of 240,000 sex offenders by simply applying 2% (the percentage of apprehended illegal aliens who are allegedly sex offenders) to the entire population of illegal aliens in the US, estimated to be 12 million. However, that 12 million includes all illegal aliens – women and children, too! If she can’t even get that right, she certainly doesn’t have any credibility in my opinion. </p>
<p>Ignore her.</p>
<p>"The only basis cited for this assertion is a “study” by an organization called the “Violent Crimes Institute.” From what we have been able to discern, the “Violent Crimes Institute” is a one-person affair, and this “study” appears unscientific and was not peer-reviewed</p>
<p>."<a href=“http://homeland.house.gov/press/index.asp?ID=145”>http://homeland.house.gov/press/index.asp?ID=145</a></p>
<p>kind of scary that one person can make such a claim and is grabbed by certain media and organizations with absolutely no verification of the claims in the “report”</p>
<p>I wish we could ignore her, but she’s is all over CNN, the administration uses her tripe to justify their actions, and others use her “data” to hate on people</p>
<p>too bad you can’t find much about her or her supposed institute</p>
<p>This is simply a Republican funded hit piece. The assignment, I suspect, was simply to jimmy up some statistics to make “those people” look bad. Republicans are always on the lookout for “those people”. It’s their stock in trade.</p>
<p>what is interesting is their NOTHING about the institute, the funding, the directors, the other people involved, nada, but this one Dr, and yet the press is eating up this “study” which seems to just be some statistics, if you can call it that, that the good Dr has manipulated to serve hers and others needs</p>
<p>Enter the Logical Fallacy: “Appeal to Anonymous Authority.”</p>
<p>Yay Philosophy class. ^_^</p>
<p>While I think the article is full of a lot of B.S. stats, what’s more important is the amount of illegal aliens we have. In my opinion, every single illegal alien is a felon. I think that life should be as miserable as possible for any illegal immigrant. Immigration should be done legally through the system, and if not, then make it so the illegals wish they had never come. I have no compassion or sympathy for an illegal immigrant. I’d rather pay more for any services that illegals perform than the additional expense they cost us in taxes for their existence. But as it turns out, illegal immigrants have as many if not more rights than most legal residents. There’s something wrong with that picture. Sorry, but there’s no rationalizing illegal immigration.</p>
<p>Christcorp,</p>
<p>what system are you talking about? As a person who went through the whole ordeal of a perfectly legal immigration I can tell you: the present system stinks. It is slow, cumbersome and very limited in scope.</p>
<p>I don’t care how difficult the system is. Illegal immigration is NOT an option. Immigration to some countries like Australia is very difficult. You have to prove that your skills, occupation, etc… are a benefit to the country. Immigration shouldn’t be easy. But as I said, Illegal immigration is not an option. If their lives are made miserable, then they deserve everything they get. Legal immigrants like you and my grand parents should appreciate that more than anyone. Having dealt with a lot of “Legal” immigrants, I can tell you that most of them loathe the illegals more than I do. They went through the cumbersome, time consuming and frustrating system that you speak of. The last thing they respect is some illegal coming over.</p>
<p>For some reason you imply that immigration is suppose to be some easy open door policy. It isn’t. No country is designed to take in millions of additional citizens every year. There has to be a balance. And in that balance, you try to not discriminate by not allowing some immigrants to come because of their country of origin. Unfortunately, the illegal immigrants make it so difficult for the legals. As much as it stinks, there should be a ban on all immigration from Mexico and Central American countries until the illegal flow has been corrected. There’s already too many illegals here. That’s why the system stinks in your opinion. How do you let in “X” amount of people from “Y” amount of countries, when you’ve already got “Z” amount of illegals raping our social infrastructure.</p>
<p>Sorry. but as a legal immigrant, you should be the first one to be slamming the illegals. All the hard work you went through, along with the hardship you went through to leave your country or origin. And now, some sleaze bag just jumps the border at night and becomes part of society with just as many rights as you and I. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for the illegals. </p>
<p>Here’s a suggestion. Every time we find an illegal immigrant, we ship their sorry butt off to Iraq, Afgan, etc… in place of one of our soldiers. You give them 24 months over there. If they can survive, they come back and have earned their citizenship. If they die, oh well. See, the immigrants who moved to this country in the last 100 years were willing to do that. So, send 1,000,000 illegals to the middle east. Give them objectives and free reign on how they accomplish the mission. Our soldiers don’t dies. The war is over in less than 3 years. The illegals become legal. Our nation is stronger. That’s how you stop illegal immigration.</p>
<p>Also concerning is the number of US citizens committing horrible sex crimes overseas.</p>
<p>Was the OP trying to start a flame war?
But then, how could anyone link to an article like that without the intent to sart a flame war…</p>
<p>I don’t know if it could be considered a flame war. There’s no reason to defend illegal immigrants. No matter if the stats are correct or not. Even if they committed zero crimes, they are all felons and have no right to be here, have legal protection, have social benefits, or be defended and rationalized.</p>
<p>“As much as it stinks, there should be a ban on all immigration from Mexico and Central American countries until the illegal flow has been corrected.”</p>
<p>Looks like very narrow tunnel vision. In case people forget, there are many Canadians and Europeans illegals too.</p>
<p>Warning, Christcorp, conservative ideas like yours aren’t welcomed on CC. Take it from one who knows!</p>
<p>What an obnoxious “article.” And, with whatever due respect, what an obnoxious thread and thread title, barrons.</p>
<p>Because you read it somewhere on the Internet does not make it so. </p>
<p>I find this outrageous in every regard.</p>
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Really? I believe that all ideas and opinions are welcome on CC.
What is not welcome is personal attacks which many posters do.</p>