Illinois Indiscretion

<p>I was an applicant to the college ofbusiness at u of illinois. </p>

<p>however just some time back i received a letter which said my appliction was incomplete and not submitted on time</p>

<p>this was incorrect. </p>

<p>on emailing the Illinois admission office… they said that they hav not received a ‘certified copy of my BOARD examination marks’ … these marks were however listed in my school transcript and that is why i did not send them . i think this is an absolute show of indiscretion. </p>

<p>besides this…illinois shoudl have some sort of system where appllicants are notified by email if any documents are missing. this is the system followed in many top universites.</p>

<p>Well I am not sure you can call what they did immoral (which is generally what one is referring to when using the word indiscretion). I am also not sure what you mean by “Board examination marks.” If you are referring to the SAT or ACT, Illinois does state in its application materials that you need to provide an official score from the tresting agency. Also, though Illinois does not email applicants if files are incomplete, it does have its file notification system on-line for all that apply on-line (its stated preferred method of applying), and at any time, an applicant can log on to his file and see if all necessary materials have arrived.</p>

<p>As an International Student studying in UAE , in a school following the Indian Syallabus, students are required to take Board Examinations in Grade 10 and 12. The very same examination is taken all over India and generally used as indicators , during the admissions process , of the academic quality of an applicant. </p>

<p>I submitted my application on January 12th and received a letter on January 29th. During this intervening time , I had my important preliminary examinations on. And here , we complete 7 examinations within 2 weeks. Naturally we would be extremely busy during the time and would be unable to check application status. </p>

<p>I had assumed that since the grades were on the attested transcript , it would not be much of a problem. The rejection came as a complete shock to me , who expected to get into Illinois quite easily.</p>

<p>It sounds like your situation is about the same as the ACT/SAT situation. Even though the score can be printed on the transcript, they need official documentation from the testing center. They probably needed something similar from your board exams.</p>

<p>Not having the time to check the application status is a rediculous exageration. It takes less than 1 minute. You did sleep during those 2 weeks of exams, you could have gone to bed 1 minute later one night. </p>

<p>If you think the university wronged you, appeal. I don’t think you have much of a case, but go nuts.</p>

<p>Its quite unlike the SAT situation. The university do not receive the board exam marks from the Council(testing agency). We have to send this documentation which a mere repitition of what is on the transcript. And both documents are attested. I really do not see the need for a seperate certificate to be sent. </p>

<p>When saying I did not have time , I mean I was engaged, studying and it wasnt that I couldn’t check but rather did not want to as I have sent the exact same set of documents to all universities and therefore assumed it was fine. I have not experienced any such problem with any other university. My point here is that if the university would send an email, it would benefit the student and prevent further cases like mine. </p>

<p>It is not that I was going to go to Illinois. The Business school program is quite poor in contrast to others I’ve been accepted into but rather the priciple of the matter.</p>

<p>@gomez95: I too am an applicant from UAE and a my classmate who also applied to UIUC faced the same problem that you have faced (I luckily sent the board exam original certificate) . </p>

<p>His application was deemed incomplete but he realized that they had not received the Board Exam marks by the end of January or beginning of February and immediately got it attested and sent it. </p>

<p>He did not receive his decision on February 16th like the rest of the applicants but was evaluated again later (as he spoke with with an official in the university) and they asked him to send the documents and told him that they would evaluate it later. </p>

<p>He fortunately received his admission decision (ACCEPTED) but considering your situation I think it is a bit too late. Sorry if it disappointed you but like you said UIUC must adopt a system like other top universities and send out e-mails if they need to receive any more documents from the applicants.</p>

<p>If Illinois is the only school to have taken this position – and it sounds like all other schools to which you applied didn’t do so although their requirements were unlikely different – I think you have a reasonable argument to contact the school and say, “If these 5 other reputable universities didn’t take this position, can’t Illinois reconsider its position and be flexible?” Doesn’t mean they’ll agree, but you’d have some equity to your argument. Good luck!</p>

<p>Nice to hear some people agree with me. The support is much appreciated. </p>

<p>I realise it is too late now but hopefully someone reading this would not repeat the same mistake I have. </p>

<p>Or hopefully an Illinois official could suggest the use of email notification.</p>

<p>sorry. I don’t agree with you. and actually I’m not really sorry. Just because every other university/college/program/whatever you applied to was consistent in not needing official documentation doesn’t warrant your complaint. Sure, one, two months ago I would have said to follow the advice of sudu1989 but look at how you have waited until now to address the problem. That is purely irresponsible and you really don’t deserve sympathy.
Next, if Illinois doesn’t want to set up an email notification system, so be it. Think about this: they have roughly 7500 people per class, which is about half of the people who they gave offers of admission, and they gave offers of admission to 65 percent of the people that applied. But many more than that probably started filling out applications because they thought they might be interested in applying but then never finished it or were inactive in making sure it was complete (like you) and so never submitted a complete application. Thus, any email notification system they would use would have to deal with over 22 thousand applications, complete and incomplete. That’s outrageous. Why couldn’t you have checked the darn thing yourself?
I’m very surprised the other schools you applied to had notification systems and/or let you submit unofficial test scores. None of the 6 top public national universities I applied to had notification systems (besides mass reminders) or a tolerance for unofficial scores.</p>

<p>Would you like to know what happened to me? The University of Massachusetts at Amherst filed my application in two different files, so each of them were incomplete. I contacted the admissions office, had it resolved (although it was past the deadline) and was eventually accepted (although I found out about two weeks after everyone at my school).</p>

<p>I don’t mean to come off as too harsh (which I’m sure I have been, (bad mood) for which I am legitimately sorry), but just as gomez wanted someone to learn from his side of this thread, I would like to say to readers that I think gomez was too passive about hoping other people would pay enough attention to his application that he wouldn’t have to read the rules, he would be told them after having broken them and then wanted a free repair. I think I stretched that analogy too far but I’m tired and have stopped caring. SO READERS: BE ACTIVE IN THE SUBMISSION AND SUBSEQUENT CHECKING OF YOUR APPLICATION. especially for schools that get upwards of 10 thousand applications. They owe you nothing. Yeah, every college sends you mail trying to get you interested but in the end you have to prove yourself to them and not vice versa.</p>

<p>As I have stated before , the scores which I sent were not unofficial test scores , it was an attested marksheet.It is quite unlike the SAT. Phinaxe , as a student living in America , you would be ignorant of the procedures internationals have to follow. </p>

<p>I have not waited till now to adress the problem . On receiving the letter , i immediately sent an email to the admissions office. However, after a week of exchanging emails , they seemed unrelenting in their case. </p>

<p>Again , your ignorance of email notification systems shows. The statistics you quoted are a mere nothing. So many schools receive the same no. of applications , if not more and yet they follow the email policy.</p>

<p>You did not come across as harsh - I like the truth. (although the analogy was a bit errr strange). The purpose of this thread is to create an awareness. As I have stated before , Illinois’s business school’s ranking is quite poor in contrast to the programs I have been accepted into. It is rather the principle of the matter.</p>

<p>gomez, is your name an homage to the band?</p>

<p>No , it isnt.</p>

<p>“It is not that I was going to go to Illinois. The Business school program is quite poor in contrast to others I’ve been accepted into but rather the priciple of the matter.”</p>

<p>I’m curious where you have been accepted…</p>

<p>I am a direct admit into the Kelley School of Business at Indianna , with a 28000$ scholarship.
I am an admit to Goizueta at Emory University.
I am a Preferred Admit to the Ross School of Business. </p>

<p>Why the curiousity?</p>

<p>Cause the U.S. business world itself doesn’t always follow the U.S. News rankings. If you’re judging the UIUC program based solely off the U.S. News rankings, you’re ignoring many other factors.</p>

<p>indiana’s business school is now ranked 18th by business week (new 2007 rankings) and U of I is 22 … not much of a difference. obviously michigans business program is ranked much higher than both tho</p>

<p>If you look at any or most ranking systems - they would rank all three high than the College of Business at Illinois .</p>

<p>I did not mention any margin of how higher it is ranked , the fact remains it is higher.</p>

<p>rankings aren’t everything</p>

<p>The point I was trying to make , that based on the rankinkgs and the other factors which constitute Canon 28’s ‘everything’ - I would choose these other universities over Illinois.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t base a decision on what a ranking system has to say, that’s all. Someone else’s evaluations are not going to determine whether you will enjoy your time, the education provided, and everything else that goes with being at that respective college.</p>