<p>^^^That’s so funny because when the kids were little and I would work nights, he was much more efficient at bedtime than I was. He would get tweaked when one of the moms of my GS troop would call and be shocked that the house was quiet and the kids were already in bed by 7:30pm; they didn’t think dads were that capable
But then again his dad, in an amazing case of memory loss from his parenting years, was fond of telling his son that he had too many rules for the girls. DH & his sisters thought that was a riot!</p>
<p>Martina99 - there is a Breast Cancer Awareness post going around Facebook. You post the month of your birth and what your craving!</p>
<p>I raised my kids with expectations on how to behave in public. Many parents today are afraid of discipline and saying “no” and think it’s their right to have children running and screaming in public places. Many friends of mine who are teachers have commented to me that their job is much more challenging than it used to be because their students don’t respect authority and when reprimanded - will tell the teacher that they can do whatever they want to do - or the best yet - that their parents will sue the teacher! When teachers call home to discuss issues with the parents - the parents usually think it’s the teachers fault/problem and that little Johnnie is an angel.</p>
<p>If John Rosemond only has a masters degree, as it appears from wiki and his website (which almost gave me a computer virus, so beware) , then in many, if not most states, he cannot call himself a psychologist.</p>
<p>And he is not a member of the American Psychological Association.</p>
<p>I don’t know if John Rosemond has a PhD or not. I may have called him Dr. R in error, just from hearing others call him that over the years. Frankly, I don’t care whether a therapist has a PhD or not. My sister is an excellent therapist (LCSW) and she doesn’t have a PhD. </p>
<p>I never agree with everything anyone says about raising kids…I don’t care who they are or what their credentials are. I never agreed with J.R.'s philosophy of only allowing 1 EC event per week since that doesn’t jive with most ECs unless it’s just a once a week club or a once a week piano lesson. </p>
<p>I do strongly agree with his belief that when kids turn 3 that you have them start doing very, very minor chores…like bringing their dirty dish up to the sink and putting toys away before getting out new ones. Or …after undressing, putting the dirty clothes into the hamper. And, then you very slowly add more as the child ages/matures/is capable…and add in a natural fashion. When kids have daily chores slowly added to their repertoire, it becomes normal like brushing teeth and combing hair. This doesn’t mean that you’re raising your kids to be your personal slaves/maids or that you’re raising them to be so independent that you can ignore them. It just means raising them to clean up after themselves and to later contribute a bit to the overall neatness of the household.</p>
<p>I don’t care of he has the right degrees. To me, he was a voice of reason during a challenging time. So was my grandmother. I think many of us took whatever ideas we could find- didn’t just follow one set of principles. Bottom line: let them know they are loved and valued. But, let them know there are rules to live by, in our society. And ways to achieve success, in various respects, in our culture.</p>
<p>*I don’t care of he has the right degrees. To me, he was a voice of reason during a challenging time. So was my grandmother. *</p>
<p>completely agree.
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<p>And JR would say that it’s great to listen to our older wiser relatives and cull whatever good advice you can from them. (Again, no one is suggesting that anyone follow some odd dysfunctional relative’s advice or ways of parenting…but most of us have one or two older relatives that successfully parented children.
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<p>As others on the thread have indicated, there are several ways to raise self-sufficient children who contribute to the family. My kids had chores from an early age too, but I didn’t use Mr. Rosemond’s methods to achieve that. Parenting young kids is a tough slog, so whatever works (within bounds of reason, of course
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<p>I seem to remember letters in his column beginning with “Dear Dr. Rosemond,” and for sure my (ex) friend always referred to him as “Dr.” But maybe I’m mis-remembering and he never pretended to be anything more than his credentials allowed. In my case, once I figured out what he had to say, I stopped reading because I didn’t want to use his methods to get where I wanted to go, and as it turns out I didn’t need to. </p>
<p>I liked my grandmother’s child-rearing advice too, lookingforward! She’d have written a great column herself.</p>
<p>My Dh is the voice of reason too. There are many people with common sense. But people don’t think he has an advanced degree that he does not, and if someone were to call him “Dr” he would correct them.</p>
<p>I liked Bruno Bettleheim, & Penelope Leach. My sister followed Rosemond and her interpretation seemed unduly harsh to me.</p>
<p>*But people don’t think he has an advanced degree that he does not, and if someone were to call him “Dr” he would correct them. *</p>
<p>And, JR probably does as well when it’s done in his presence. His website only says “John Rosemond.”</p>
<p>I’m talking about that when friends/family mention him they will say Dr. R…so JR wouldn’t be there to correct them…lol</p>
<p>I am 49 and I’m over younger children too. My children are 18 and 16 and I’m not looking forward to them going, but feeling that the very child/teenager absorbed years of my life have lasted a long time. It is really disconcerting though that now when someone else’s children are making a noise somewhere, like at church, I just feel extremely irritated as though I’m old. Well, maybe I am old!</p>
<p>John Rosemond is considered a “Psychological Associate” according to the NC licensing board:
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<p>Actually, his website says “From 1980-1990. John was in full-time practice as a family psychologist with Piedmont Psychological Associates in Gastonia.” Which, according to the NC licensing board, seems to be a misrepresentation. Licensing boards take this stuff very seriously. In NC, if he did psychotherapy, since he is a licensed psychological associate, it appears he would have to work under the supervision of a licensed psychologist. He could perhaps say he provided “family psychotherapy” but there is no title, nor should he say he is a “family psychologist”. This may sound minor to some of you, but trust me, licensing boards are happy to send out cease and desist letters to people who misrepresent themselves.</p>
<p>Thanks for the information, jym. I’m a layperson but I do like to know what qualifications professionals have. This puts his negative comments about the impact of psychology on the American family in an interesting light.</p>
<p>Thanks, frazzled. I had no idea that he made derogatory comments about psychology and the american family. Where was that?</p>
<p>It also caught my eye that in the licensing board info in post #73, they noted that he has had NC psychology licensing board action taken against him. Apparently it happened twice. Wonder if that influenced the negative comments he made about psychology.</p>
<p>His wikipedia entry (which I realize is not necessarily the last word in objectivity) says:
This is what initially bugged me about his columns - it seemed to me that he was snarky about the value of other parenting columnists who were psychologists, leaving me to wonder why I was supposed to get on board with his message if he had the same qualifications. So now it turns out that he didn’t have them.</p>
<p>And wiki is wrong, he <em>isn’t</em> a psychologist. Hmm… is he still saying that kind of stuff after gettign sacntioned and having a consent order against him by his state’s licensing board for stuff he writes/says?</p>
<p>I think John Rosemond has done real harm to parents and children, especially to those who are not neurotypical.
He thinks that ADHD & autism are a matter of discipline.</p>
<p>That is really, really scary, EK.</p>
<p>** and oops on the typos above-- meant to say “after getting sanctioned”</p>