<p>Hard for some people to see shades of gray.</p>
<p>Why am I not surprised at your use of the word “harmless” here to describe my feelings about Imus’ remarks. </p>
<p>Maybe you don’t read entire threads–is that the problem?</p>
<p>I am having a very hard time understanding the cheating spouse analogy.</p>
<p>I’ve read this whole thread. And you yourself are the one who said that the harm was not done by Imus:</p>
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<p>How many times do you need to see this quoted before you take responsibility for it?</p>
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<p>Let’s reduce it to symbols: Person A does something bad to Person B without Person B’s knowledge. Person C calls attention to Person B’s behavior, with the result that Person B finds out about what Person A did and is hurt by it. People on message boards post that Person C, not Person A, is responsible for the hurt.</p>
<p>Yes, I stand by that.</p>
<p>However, that is a very different thing from saying that the remarks Imus directed towards the girls were “harmless” (your word).</p>
<p>The harm was done not by Imus, but by people other than Imus. That came from you.</p>
<p>Sorry you don’t get it, conyat.</p>
<p>I really don’t get the symbol thing. Is the cheating spouse A, B, or C ?</p>
<p>Maybe it is A, B, and C. Or is that on the Anna Nicole Smith Thread? I am really confused… :o</p>
<p>You’re right. I don’t get why calling black women hostile names behind their backs but in front of a large audience only does any “real” harm if someone protests the name-calling. And I’ll never get that. You publicly label someone by a demeaning name, you’re responsible for the consequences of your actions; no one else.</p>
<p>Who do you think is responsible for the harm in an infidelity situation 1sokkermom? The person who cheated, or the person who told the betrayed spouse what was going on?</p>
<p>Worth reposting (Jason Whitlock’s column):</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339/html[/url]”>http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339/html</a></p>
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<p>Sorry Conyat, No way am I gonna’ take that bait… ;)</p>
<p>I already said I think there was no harm. I am an evil heartless person.</p>
<p>This whole thing with Imus has not really been addressed as far as I’m concerned. Do you know that it was on April 10 that a school in GA decided that it was OK not to have 2 proms? By that I mean a “black” and a “white” prom? P.L.E.A.S.E. I’m sorry but how can we possibly make joke about races when we as a nation have not even “fully” embraced civil rights?
It is much too soon to joke about our differences, we have yet to accept & even better CELEBRATE Them!</p>
<p><a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070410/ap_on_re_us/integrated_prom[/url]”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070410/ap_on_re_us/integrated_prom</a></p>
<p>Condider me an ALLY!</p>
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<p>It wasn’t bait. You posted twice claiming not to understand the analogy. I was trying to help you understand it. Why would you consider that bait?</p>
<p>Hereshoping, I am just now reading this thread, and totally, completely agree with your post #241. I am amazed there was so much fuss over this - by reacting so vocally, all everyone has done is give Imus a LOT of credibility - far more than he deserves. </p>
<p>But you know what’s really troubling? That he called the girls on the Tennessee team “pretty”, and I haven’t heard even the first complaint about that. In many ways, that he chose to comment on ANY female’s physical appearance is inappropriate, and somehow calling the other team “pretty”, at least to me, is far creepier, and more insidious, than the comment he made about the Rutgers girls. </p>
<p>If he made such a comment about MY daughter such as he did about the Rutgers girls, I wouldn’t notice, or, if I noticed, I wouldn’t care. I might laugh but doubt it - I wouldn’t be that engaged. Imus and his ilk do not have that kind of power over me.</p>
<p>Conyat,</p>
<p>I didn’t understand the analogy because it assumed that harm was done. I don’t believe that harm was done. Therefore the cheating spouse analogy made no sense to me, nor did the ABC example.</p>
<p>I did not want to engage in an endless hostile discourse with you. I appreciate your opinion, but I don’t necessarily agree with it.</p>
<p>(Have a good night. D just got home and I’m supposed to be watching the Red Sox with H. This is more fun!)</p>
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<p>Thank you. I’ve gone out of my way to answer your repeated posts about my analogy being not understandable, and also gone out of my way to try to understand your position by asking a followup question. So I appreciate very much that you won’t be sending unsolicited hostility my way. </p>
<p>If only Imus had extended the same courtesy to the Rutgers team, we’d be minus one thread.</p>
<p>So…“F” Imus, good riddance! What does Howard Stern think about this whole thing? Does anyone get Sirius? I know Howard really couldn’t stand him & he’s my man! (Tho I couldn’t justify paying for radio…)</p>
<p>I don’t get Sirius but I do have a good googlefinger.</p>
<p>Although Howard said he wouldn’t want his own radio career to end over a racist remark, he predicted that Imus would be fired, and his website has the firing story with the headline “A Dream Come True.” </p>
<p>According to the website, Robin had an interesting perspective on it: She thinks if Imus had stuck to his own show and apologized there, it would have blown over–that what made this erupt into a big story was Imus trying to get more publicity by going on Sharpton’s show.</p>
<p>Robin is amazing, I just love her. She’s right and I imagine that is exactly what caused his firing. That plus he seem to be an utter moron! (Sorry about the name calling, I know that is what caused this whole thing…but he really is!) thank you conyat</p>
<p>Yeah, I give that a lot of weight, considering it comes from someone inside the shock jock industry, who has every reason to know how these things work.</p>