In-laws told to not come for birth of first grandchild

@Hoggirl has hit the nail on the head about my discomfort – the fear that this will be the start (actually, the continuation) of a pattern. I don’t want to go into specifics, but this couple always has spent a lot more time with her family, in part because the other family is really well off. An example: At Christmas, couple flies “home,” spends three days with her family, three days with his family and then they fly with her family to a vacation home for a week/10 days. Repeat.

I like @abasket 's comment about the idea of sheltering in place, Airbnb, etc., might feel overwhelming. I’ll definitely give that perspective.

I’ve told her before when they were still dating that she shouldn’t ask him to pick sides, because she would likely be on the losing end. But at what point do you stand up and say, “Hey, I have feelings, too”? I’m not sure this is the hill to die on, because, like I said, I think new mom “wins” in this situation. Like I said, I’m just sad for her.

Once our children have children, they become the parents, not us. My mother was/is a very hands on grandmother/great grandmother, but after the birth of my first, I didn’t have her stay with me. She actually hired a baby nurse for me that was suppose to stay with us for 2 weeks. After the first week, I sent her home as I wanted to take care of my son myself. When my mother offered the nurse again for my second child, I immediately refused the gift.

My parents were at every event my kids had; dance, baseball, school performances, graduations, etc… My in laws, who also lived in the same city as all of us, came when it was convenient. If they had their regular dinner plans with a friend on the same night as an event, they didn’t come see the kids. When we went out of town, or could not find a sitter, my parents were always available and my kids spent the night with them often, just because. My daughter stayed one night at my in laws as my son was having his spend the night birthday party, and my daughter was recovering from pneumonia, so we didn’t want her at home. My parents were out of town, otherwise, she would have gone there. This was not for lack of trying from both my husband and I; the in laws just had their priorities, and those did not include my kids. To this day, my mother lives for the great grandchildren. My kids have a Whats App group with mom where they upload pictures almost everyday of the great grand daughters. Mom loves to show them off to her friends on her phone; I am not sure my MIL even pays attention to the pictures we email her, nor does she have pictures out we printed for her.

While I did get to see my daughter’s baby the day after she was born, I gave the new parents all the space they wanted. We sat in the hospital room when she asked, ran errands, and did anything we were told. The day they came home from the hospital, we flew out. I returned when her husband went back to work two weeks later for one week as she had a section. This gave the new family 2 weeks to bond and get use to having a newborn around. In the evening when my SIL was home, I stayed in my room to give them space. They lived in a tiny rental, and my SIL likes quiet, something I am not!! This worked well for all of us. I did have to bit my tongue a few times as my daughter was not interested in my suggestions as that is not what the experts said. She is well read, but follows the guide books to a tee; there is no gray in her world; she is very type A like her father.

I really was fine with seeing my son’s daughter after the two week bonding period. My son and DIL are so laid back, that they let me do anything for the baby and I was very hands on. My DIL’s mother, while she loves her grandkids and is very close to all her own daughters, feels she has raised her own children, and doesn’t want to help with the grandbabies. She loves to play with them, but when visiting, according to my son, she doesn’t change diapers, feed meals or put them down for naps. When my husband and I are around with either grand daughters, we change diapers, supervise meals, take care of bath and bedtime, and go for walks. Our kids are always offered nights out, which my son always takes us up on! Type A daughter, not so often.

For all of us grand parents, we need to allow our children to be the parents and we do what we are told. Be welcoming and offer to help, but step back if that is not what the new parents want. I think, at least for my daughter, she had these grand allusions of what life would be like and what she expected from her husband and the grandparents. Turns out, raising a child was a bit different than she thought, so she is lightening up a bit, even with her in-laws.

My best friend is in a similar position. Her DIL is due in 2 weeks. The plan is for her mother and father to drive the 1,000 miles between their home and their D’s when told she is in labor. Her dad plans to fly home a few days after the baby comes home and her mom is staying for a few weeks. My friend and her H, a doctor, have been asked to wait and come in October when DIL goes back to work (either in-person or virtually). Their plan is to fly out (they live on the other side of the country), rent an Air BnB and quarantine for 2 weeks, then see their GS.

As the grandmother of a 20 month old, I think I would have exploded if I had to wait 3 months to see him after he was born, but she understands that this world is not as we wish it would be and that while otherwise she might have gone out (at her S’s request) a couple of weeks after GS was born, it just doesn’t work right now. And this is a couple whose plan all along has been to get my friend and her H to move to their city to be a constant presence in GS’s life, so DIL is on board with their presence. But she wants her mom around and everyone understands that feeling.

When GS was born, no one was in the L&D room but my S. In the end she had an emergency C-section and even my S missed the actual delivery because they had to take him while S was changing (it was that much of an emergency). DIL credits the wonderful anesthesiologist for holding her hand! We were all waiting in the hospital and her mom got to go in first once they allowed visitors. We were next and took turns so as not to overwhelm S, SIL or GS.

I am forever grateful to my S and amazing DIL for the way they have included us (and her mom, and their siblings) in the day-to-day life of our GS. But I know that the time post-childbirth can be emotional and challenging and I think we, as grandparents, have to defer to the decisions made by our children, the parents, no matter how difficult they may be to understand, at the time.

We lived multiple states away from both my parents and my in-laws. My parents came out two weeks after DD was born (their first grandchild). I wished my mom had been there earlier. Not necessarily for the birth, but we really could have used some experienced and loving help and support. My in-laws didn’t see their granddaughter until her christening, when she was six weeks old. They had been invited earlier, but as DD was being christened in their family church, they opted to wait for us to visit them. MIL had five kids and DD was her sixth grandchild (two were adopted as older children, but still it was their fourth “baby grand” experience) - so maybe by then they knew a little bit more than we did at the time about giving new parents some privacy.

I hadn’t given any of this much thought in all these years. So OP, while it may seem upsetting to your friend right now, in the long run, it won’t be. Just ask the new parents to send a ton of photos and videos.

I would respect their wishes. This will set the tone for the next decade(s). We are living through very uncertain time and is totally understandable. They will have many more happy years to enjoy with their grandchild if they take this one graciously.

I became a new mom when I adopted my daughter overseas. There were lots of scheduled events for us during that process, and official appointments and interviews, and it was an exhausting, stressful (and wonderful) two and a half weeks.
I decided to employ a white lie… I told everyone at home that we’d be returning 5 days later than the actual date… while I was so happy for all the love and support from everyone in my circle, the last thing I wanted after a 32 hour flight with 3 stopovers was an excited crowd at the airport welcoming us with balloons and overwhelming my new baby. I wanted time to finally settle in and just nest and bond with her… without the phone ringing and people stopping by. I surprised my mom 4 days after we got back… she wasn’t expecting us for a few more days, and was so thrilled… I felt a little guilty, but it was a good choice.

My son and DIL had a baby 14 months ago. DIL only wanted S in the room. (I didn’t want to be in there anyway) It was pre-Covid so both sets of grandparents were in the waiting room. About an hour after the birth we were allowed in. The best part was seeing my son hold his baby. But that was then, and this is now and with everything that is going on in the world, I would be OK with seeing the new baby on FaceTime. S&DIL live in the other grandparents (saving money to buy a house) house and the other grandma watches the baby while they work. So of course they get more time with the baby. But that is OK, I am happy they have so much support. We live an hour away and when they finally do get their house the plan is for DH and I to go down and babysit (well DH will work on the yard) periodically to give the other grandma a break. As I told my 3 kids multiple times, life is not fair, you need to make the best of the cards you are dealt.

My D is expecting in September and H and I are driving cross country to be there. But I rented a house so that we wouldn’t be under foot all the time. We can quarantine on arrival. We can eat our own meals at our house so that takes the pressure for meal prep off the new family. We don’t have to see them or the new baby every day.

D definitely wants me there. We are very close. She is a doctor so she is well aware of the new normal for exposure to the virus. She would have wanted me in the labor room but the new COVID rules allow just one extra person.

Childbirth is very safe but it’s not completely safe. It’s normal for a woman to want HER parents there and for the woman’s parents to want to be there. It’s their daughter who is undergoing the rigors of the birth and if something happened well…that’s MY baby in trouble not the in-laws.

Y’all are right about playing the long game. She and I – lol – will get over it. This, to me, is a joyous occasion, a once-in-a-lifetime thing – the first grandchild for each family. It means so much to both families and just feels wrong to only include one. But, as I’ve said repeatedly, this is the new mom’s call. It is what it is.

Some people are just thoughtless. They think about how things affect them but don’t take the time to consider how things affect others.

I have a sister in law like this. She’s a very nice person, she really is. But it’s all about her and how things affect her. Her mom and dad are very needy so all of her attention goes to them.

My mil can be blunt but she loves her grandchildren and did a lot for these grandchildren. My sil uses her when it’s convenient and ignores my mil the rest of the time.

It’s been 30 years and things don’t change. It’s been hurtful for mil.

I try to think about my il’s and what I do for my parents, I try to do for the il’s. Life for me is about how I can be there for people, not about what people can do for me.

But after this and the wedding thread, I feel bad for boy moms. My sil said to my mil once, too bad you didn’t have daughters who would do things with you. My mil will never forget that, my sil forgot right away.

I agree about some of the wedding horror stories!

I am a boy mom, and I do plenty with them…

I did not want my inlaws (or my parents) there for our first, as they are incredibly high maintenance. My husband asked them to wait. They did not, and showed up the day we came home from the hospital. He walked them back out to their car, gave them a hug, and told them to come back in the morning when we were capable of coping. He had a hard time forgiving them, because they have always been all about doing what they want, little regard for anyone else’s wishes. But it was fine, in the end.

Other pregnancies were scary and the ILs just didn’t want to help, because it wasn’t fun. They suggested I get my mom to come help, or hire someone, or “make it work” because they had cruises to go on. We reap what we sow…But I send my dh to spend a weekend with his mom every year, because she deserves that no matter what.

If I am the hurt mom, I say so. I don’t demand, I don’t insist, but I am okay with saying “Oh, it does hurt my feelings, did I do something? Is there a compromise?” but you have to let the couple do what they think is best. The baby will still be a new baby at 3 or 4 weeks. If we see everything as a battle for favored status, we will just make everyone nuts. Said as a MiL whose counterpart would try Mother Teresa’s patience.

^I don’t know about that as a reaction. It seems a bit manipulative to me “Oh, did I do something?” is asking for people to feel bad and apologize for “insinuating” that. At most, I’d say, “well, I’m really disappointed, but we will look forward to January”. Naming the feelings, but not assigning blame for them.

I agree. This young woman is facing her first labor in the middle of a pandemic and has no idea how it will progress (36 hours of back labor, anyone?) or how she or their baby will be affected. She doesn’t need the additional stress of entertaining guests. Do the women in her family suffer from post-partum depression? If so, the more people who are around to drain her energy the longer it will take her to recover. A woman’s birthing plan is hers. It’s not the starting point of a negotiation.

Sometimes I think we are a nation of thoughtless people. Everyone wants to do what they want to do when they want to do it and don’t think about others.

Moms, dads, mil’s, fil’s, sons, daughters, sil’s, dil’s… The list goes on and on.

How else can we explain what is going on in this country right now?

It’s equally thoughtless to not respect the wishes of new parents. Having two sets of grandparents right at childbirth thine is too many people.

Your friend can enjoy this baby more when they are the only grandparents there in January.

Thoughtless goes in both directions. I think it’s thoughtless not to consider the new parent wishes.

It’s not like the new parents excluded these grands completely. They have been invited to enjoy in January.

I’d ask for pictures and maybe FaceTime until January

When I had my sons, no parents were at the birth, which was fine with me. All family descended on us a week later for each of their bris. DH’s family saw it as a time for a family reunion when S1 was born, and I didn’t appreciate guests for days. Since my SisILs had boys by the time S2 was born and understood what an imposition it was for everyone to be there for days, family came for the bris and went home.

When my GD was born in 2017, 3000 miles away from any other family, nobody was there for the birth, which was DIL’s preference anyway. Once the baby was a month old, DIL’s mother and sister were the first visitors. DH and I came out to visit about a week after they left. Of course, we would’ve loved to be have there sooner, but in the grand scheme of things it didn’t make any difference. Maintaining a good relationship with S and DIL is the most important thing.

My mom came for both births and she was the perfect, helpful person I wanted the most. Only H got to be in the delivery room, however. I saw that as a private moment for us. He wanted to include his father, of all people, and I said no. They were very close. I did not feel the same way. What, they were going to huddle up while I pushed? No way.

My mom cooked and cleaned and ran errands and let me take care of the baby, spelling me when I asked for help. She was exactly what I wanted. I, too, wanted to hunker down and figure out this baby and this situation. I didn’t want a lot of extra people around, especially ones who would create demands and distractions. My MIL got mad at me when I didn’t change the water in flowers people sent. No, she did not change the water; she just fussed at me for not doing it. You get the picture. She and FIL lived in the same town as us for baby one, so they were around. A lot.

For baby two my mom came a few days early but MIL thankfully asked me if she should come early or four to six weeks later. I chose the latter and in fact she came about three months later. She wasn’t very kid friendly tbh, more in love with the idea of grandchildren than the actual grandchildren.

Okay, enough venting. I expect my future DILs to feel closer to their moms than to me. I hope they will want their moms to be with them and I hope to be understanding and be ready to wait a little bit to see the grandchildren if that is what they want. In a perfect world, they will invite me to come right away and we will figure out how to help and respect each other, but they may want some space and privacy. (I don’t want to be in the delivery room, but if that’s what the moms want, I’ll attend. )

It does worry me that I will be left out because I am the boys’ mom. I plan on cultivating a good relationship with the DILs. My sons and I are close, but I won’t be surprised if they defer to their wives on this.

The thought of my FIL in the delivery room made me lol. One year, he gave me a large canister of nutmeg for Christmas. He was a character on his best days.

“don’t understand why women are always blamed if a couple spends less time with his parents than hers. Men are responsible for their own choices.”

Right? The DHs parents are just not my family, they are his family. Dhs get to swan off to work leaving new mum, new baby and these people that are all but strangers together LOL. These in laws are house guests and now more responsibility for the new mum. They are more people to feed FGS.