For people who don’t have first hand experience with medical school admissions, the language is misleading. Nobody needs a premed “prep” program to apply to law school-- which likely means that the law school applicants were told at some point- “Time for Plan B because we aren’t supporting you for Plan A”.
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When you have 33 students enter a premed program and 8 students are accepted to medical school - a headline touting Pre-Medical Scholars Earn 100% Post-Grad Acceptance Rate is extremely misleading. And it’s not even clear the 8 are all going to medical school and not post bac and masters programs - they were just the small percentage of scholars worthy of a picture 4 years later.
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Looking back at it, i’ll agree wth you and @blossom the headline is misleading and first sentence. They should note 100% of med school applicants and that not every graduate applied to med school.
They note the inaugural class - so i’ll assume based on that last line that some of the inaugural class didn’t apply to med school.
In the end, OP really just has to make a decision - and that shouldn’t matter.
The curriculum is definitely interesting. Can those classes be taken outside of the program - at Tulsa for example? I don’t know.
Or is the comfort of the small school going to win?
All good - thanks for correcting me.
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On the website under the course descriptions tab, anything under the “Required Courses” heading, I don’t think so. The ones under the “Electives” heading are regular courses anyone can take!
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We have the same exact discussion going on in our home, actually! Though our student’s interview with ECM at Tulsa was very negative - the interviewer was not paying attention - and our student got the rejection the next day.
What is ECM ?
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Thx. It’s a bit different. McCullough is a pre med prigram. If OP is NMSF, they can still choose Tulsa. The student would need to apply to med school regardless.
Thanks for that link.
I wonder if @TeacherTanya student is turned off by Tulsa, as an opportunity, after that experience.
In general, Tulsa and Bama are so different - if the moneys weren’t so similar, they likely wouldn’t be in the same consideration set.
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Tulsa has an Early Assurance Program with the University of Oklahoma Medical school - just 5 students taken from each first-year entering class at UTulsa. Our student was chosen for the interview. Tulsa had been the top school before the interview but after the interview, our student wasn’t sure because of the way that the interviewer was not paying attention. It was a strange experience.
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Totally understood.
Hopefully they will visit, talk to kids and get a true experience.
I hate that one admission experience could cloud a school. I know it does but schools are bigger than that. But it’s sad that this person, whether your student was one of the five selected or not, would un sell the university.
In the end, these are sales folks - even if not selected.
And they often fail.
Good luck with whatever your student decides.
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Good writing. We did visit Tulsa in the past and had a very favorable impression. I think it felt even worse this week because our student had just been to two other schools for visits and a scholarship interview - and they were treated very well in both places - so it made Tulsa look worse when this just happened.
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Hi! 
I’m so sorry your student had such a weird experience with the ECM interview! Just one disappointing interaction can be enough to affect someone’s decision at this point.
My son didn’t apply to ECM, but we reached out to his admissions counselor about support for pre-med students, and they sent over a ton of great info. My son also received two lovely things in the mail from Tulsa this week, which was such a nice touch.
At this point, S25 has made his decision—he’s heading to Tulsa in the fall! 
If you need someone to chat with who was weighing the same decisions, feel free to reach out, @TeacherTanya ! Happy to serve as a sounding board! 
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So glad that your son made a decision that he’s happy with! 
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Thank you!!
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Apologies for being off the board for a week! Any questions I can answer?
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No worries! We made our decision—S25 is heading to Tulsa this fall. Between his awesome visit to campus for Tulsa Time, the personalized mail and fun merch, and the attention from his admission rep (handwritten postcard, texts, Zoom meetings)—he feels like he’s found the right place for him. Plus, he can’t wait for JumpstartTU and just found out he got into the Honors College, which he’s thrilled about!
You all are doing all the right things! Thank you so much!
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A good helpful thread. If you are interested in pre-med, I can arrange a call with our Dean of the Oxley College of Health Sciences (home of the natural sciences and allied health professions). She’s an MD; Yale undergrad, UCSF med school, opthamological surgeon, longtime Dartmouth medical faculty). She’s extremely knowledgeable about med school. Worth talking to even if TU proves not the right fit.
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Just saw this! Welcome to TU! Look forward to having you on campus. You won’t be disappointed. Feel free to reach out to me (you probably have my cell from the visit), but if not I can give that to you.
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So that we can be sure we’re giving accurate info to other students in the future… when students on the National Merit full ride scholarship elect to do the five-year international dual-degree program, is the fifth year fully funded by the scholarship as well?
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The scholarship is for 4 years or until an undergraduate degree is earned, whichever comes first, as long as positive progress towards a degree is maintained. If a student is required more than 4 years to earn a bachelor degree, they can petition for an extension of the scholarship. In the case of the int’l dual degree program, it will always be granted.
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