UCSC is exactly the type of school I was talking about though. Apparently (I say apparently because I’ve only been in CA 4 years) it used to be a typical safety for average-lower B range students, and those who liked surfing. The middle 50% admitted gpa at UCSC is now 3.76-4.16. It’s not Cal, but it’s not exactly low scoring either. Seems a number of kids who some years back would have had a UCSC level college as a safety are moving on to the CSUs.